I have undertaken the task of researching and documenting my complete family tree, on branch being Italian. My great-grandfather came to the United States in 1912, so that is currently where my data has ended.
Any ideas on how I can find my Italian ancestors and/or living relatives? Surname is Germani, and I believe from the Rome area. Also loking for the surname Lotti.
Trying to find Germani relatives in Italy
- allisonlee2003
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Re: Trying to find Germani relatives in Italy
Welcome to the forum!
This may help you locate family currently living in Italy.
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This may help you locate family currently living in Italy.
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Re: Trying to find Germani relatives in Italy
Really enjoyed your family site on ancestry, especially the pictures!
In case you don’t have a subscription to footnote.com
This may help you locate family & records in Italy since
Italian records are kept at the comune (town) level
(Peter Germani born in Ceccano, Frosinone, Lazio, Italy)
Valarie
1918 Military Service
Publication Number: M1522
Publication Title: Naturalization Petitions for the
Eastern District of Pennsylvania, 1795-1930
Publisher: NARA
State: Pennsylvania
Court: US Circuit Court
Year: 1918
Date: 23 May 1918
Immigrant Full Name: Peter Germani
Document Type: Other
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: E. T. Smith
Witness 2 Full Name: Jos. C Horan
Year Immigrated: 1912
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1918 Petition
Publication Number: M1522
Publication Title: Naturalization Petitions for the
Eastern District of Pennsylvania, 1795-1930
Publisher: NARA
State: Pennsylvania
Court: US Circuit Court
Year: 1918
Date: 23 May 1918
Immigrant Full Name: Peter Germani
Document Type: Petition for Naturalization
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: E. T. Smith
Witness 2 Full Name: Jos. C Horan
Year Immigrated: 1912
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1918 Oath
Publication Number: M1522
Publication Title: Naturalization Petitions for the
Eastern District of Pennsylvania, 1795-1930
Publisher: NARA
State: Pennsylvania
Court: US Circuit Court
Year: 1918
Date: 24 May 1918
Immigrant Full Name: Peter Germani
Document Type: Other
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: [Blank]
Witness 2 Full Name: [Blank]
Year Immigrated: 1912
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Act of 9 May 1918:
From NARA Naturalizations
“ …act of May 9, 1918, that allowed aliens serving in the U.S. armed forces during "the present war" to file a petition for naturalization without making a declaration of intent or proving 5 years' residenceâ€
In case you don’t have a subscription to footnote.com
This may help you locate family & records in Italy since
Italian records are kept at the comune (town) level
(Peter Germani born in Ceccano, Frosinone, Lazio, Italy)
Valarie
1918 Military Service
Publication Number: M1522
Publication Title: Naturalization Petitions for the
Eastern District of Pennsylvania, 1795-1930
Publisher: NARA
State: Pennsylvania
Court: US Circuit Court
Year: 1918
Date: 23 May 1918
Immigrant Full Name: Peter Germani
Document Type: Other
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: E. T. Smith
Witness 2 Full Name: Jos. C Horan
Year Immigrated: 1912
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1918 Petition
Publication Number: M1522
Publication Title: Naturalization Petitions for the
Eastern District of Pennsylvania, 1795-1930
Publisher: NARA
State: Pennsylvania
Court: US Circuit Court
Year: 1918
Date: 23 May 1918
Immigrant Full Name: Peter Germani
Document Type: Petition for Naturalization
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: E. T. Smith
Witness 2 Full Name: Jos. C Horan
Year Immigrated: 1912
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1918 Oath
Publication Number: M1522
Publication Title: Naturalization Petitions for the
Eastern District of Pennsylvania, 1795-1930
Publisher: NARA
State: Pennsylvania
Court: US Circuit Court
Year: 1918
Date: 24 May 1918
Immigrant Full Name: Peter Germani
Document Type: Other
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: [Blank]
Witness 2 Full Name: [Blank]
Year Immigrated: 1912
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Act of 9 May 1918:
From NARA Naturalizations
“ …act of May 9, 1918, that allowed aliens serving in the U.S. armed forces during "the present war" to file a petition for naturalization without making a declaration of intent or proving 5 years' residenceâ€
Re: Trying to find Germani relatives in Italy
More family clues?
According to Peter Germani’s 1918 Petition for Naturalization,
this is his 1912 manifest?
He may be traveling with relatives or friends from Ceccano to Allentown?
Does this look correct?
Thanks! Valarie
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From Steve Morse One-Step Ellis Island
1912 manifest page 1
page 2
SS Cedric
Arrival 12 April 1912
Naples to New York
Line 28
Pietro Germani
17 years old (abt 1894)
Single
Last residence Ceccano
In Ceccano, sister Teresa
Destination Allentown, PA
Not in US before
Joining father Luigi in Allentown, Box 217
(same destination as line 29)
Born in Ceccano
According to Peter Germani’s 1918 Petition for Naturalization,
this is his 1912 manifest?
He may be traveling with relatives or friends from Ceccano to Allentown?
Does this look correct?
Thanks! Valarie
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From Steve Morse One-Step Ellis Island
1912 manifest page 1
page 2
SS Cedric
Arrival 12 April 1912
Naples to New York
Line 28
Pietro Germani
17 years old (abt 1894)
Single
Last residence Ceccano
In Ceccano, sister Teresa
Destination Allentown, PA
Not in US before
Joining father Luigi in Allentown, Box 217
(same destination as line 29)
Born in Ceccano
Re: Trying to find Germani relatives in Italy
In case you don't have this record...
Daria Lotti
From the census records you posted on your family site:
possible 1903 manifest
SS Koenig Albert
Arrival 29 April 1903
Genoa to New York
Lines 26 & 27
Erminia Lotti 24, (abt 1878)
- married
- last residence?
- destination Allentown, PA
- joining husband at #30 7th Street
Daughter Daria 4, (abt 1898)
1903 detained page
Line 81
Daria Lotti
From the census records you posted on your family site:
possible 1903 manifest
SS Koenig Albert
Arrival 29 April 1903
Genoa to New York
Lines 26 & 27
Erminia Lotti 24, (abt 1878)
- married
- last residence?
- destination Allentown, PA
- joining husband at #30 7th Street
Daughter Daria 4, (abt 1898)
1903 detained page
Line 81
Re: Trying to find Germani relatives in Italy
Erminia’s maiden name - Ciappa/Chiappa?
If Mike Ciappa/Chiappa on your 1920 census find is Ermina’s brother,
1917 WWI Card
703 Florence Street - same address as 1920 census
Born in Bargo/a? Lucca
(a couple of location possibilities:
Barga, province of Lucca, Tuscany
or Borgo A Mozzano, Lucca, Tuscany)
If Mike Ciappa/Chiappa on your 1920 census find is Ermina’s brother,
1917 WWI Card
703 Florence Street - same address as 1920 census
Born in Bargo/a? Lucca
(a couple of location possibilities:
Barga, province of Lucca, Tuscany
or Borgo A Mozzano, Lucca, Tuscany)
Re: Trying to find Germani relatives in Italy
Also, Daria's father's name may have been Policarpo Lotti,
later 'americanized' to Paul
possible 2nd trip?
1901 manifest
SS Trave
Arrival 12 Jun 1901
Genoa to NY
Line 30
Policarpo Lotti, 33? (abt 1868)
- married
- last residence Borgo A Mozzano?
- citizen?
- destination New York
- 'has been' in US before
later 'americanized' to Paul
possible 2nd trip?
1901 manifest
SS Trave
Arrival 12 Jun 1901
Genoa to NY
Line 30
Policarpo Lotti, 33? (abt 1868)
- married
- last residence Borgo A Mozzano?
- citizen?
- destination New York
- 'has been' in US before
Re: Trying to find Germani relatives in Italy
Luigi Germani ship's manifest:
First Name: Luigi
Last Name: Germani
Ethnicity: Italy, South Italian
Last Place of Residence: Ceccano, Italy
Date of Arrival: May 01, 1911
Age at Arrival: 42y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Cincinnati
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0026
daughter Teresa in Ceccano....
http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 0049%2ETIF
regards, suanj
First Name: Luigi
Last Name: Germani
Ethnicity: Italy, South Italian
Last Place of Residence: Ceccano, Italy
Date of Arrival: May 01, 1911
Age at Arrival: 42y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Cincinnati
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0026
daughter Teresa in Ceccano....
http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 0049%2ETIF
regards, suanj
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Re: Trying to find Germani relatives in Italy
1920 census for Louis Germani
Name: Louis Germani
Home in 1920: Allentown Ward 2, Lehigh, Pennsylvania
Age: 61 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Widower
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of Immigration: 1902
Biff
Name: Louis Germani
Home in 1920: Allentown Ward 2, Lehigh, Pennsylvania
Age: 61 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Widower
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of Immigration: 1902
Biff
"Mintammicce impizzu mpizzu ca pue largu minne fazzu sule!"
Re: Trying to find Germani relatives in Italy
Possible 1902 manifest for Luigi Germani
Name: Luigi Germani
Arrival Date: 7 Mar 1902
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/RaceÂ/Nationality: Italian
Last residence: Ceccano
Destination: New York, NY
Ship Name: Tartar Prince
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 19
Biff
Name: Luigi Germani
Arrival Date: 7 Mar 1902
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/RaceÂ/Nationality: Italian
Last residence: Ceccano
Destination: New York, NY
Ship Name: Tartar Prince
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 19
Biff
"Mintammicce impizzu mpizzu ca pue largu minne fazzu sule!"
- allisonlee2003
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Re: Trying to find Germani relatives in Italy
Thank you so much to everyone who has replied with "leads" for me. It is great to have the ability to communicate with people with a lot more experience than I currently have!