Trying to research/find family/ancestors

[ptimber]

You stated your family came from San Giovanni in Galdo but at the end of your inquiry you stated you wanted information about where your familycame from. But if you knew they csame from San Giovanni in Galdo then why did you ask for information about where they came from without mentioning any name???? I surmised that you would have said San Giovanni in Galdo if that was the case since you stated that at the beginning and left out the name of a town at the end....Thats what I wanted toi clarify before we were rudely interrupted. But John answered you very nicely so I had not further assistance to render. Peter

[tebor13]

Thanks to you guys who've helped me i'm looking thru those sites now. To the person trying to start trouble with people, ptimber or whoever you are, my question was pretty straight forward i'd like to know where my family's roots come from and who they are since i dont know half of them. Thanks guys for your help!

Dear LyricsMama,
You are very welcome!!!! I hope it helps. If there is anything else you need, please let me know and i will see if i have any more information for you. Good luck in your search!!!!!

Robert

[ptimber]

Dear Lyricsmama I truly did not know what town you were talking about. I did not understand but now I do so we can continue from here. Please let me know if you need anything and perhaps if you wish to conduct your own genealogy you can purchase an excellent book Italian Genealogicval records by Trafford R. Cole which will then enable you to spend many hours without having to rely on others excedpt for some refinements you need. Good Luck Peter

[ptimber]

tHIS IS TO FURTHER ADVISE THAT ON 8/31/2004, TEBOR !3, WHO IS ALSO KNOWN AS 'ROBERT' CALLED ME A "condensending ahole". i AM PUTING THIS ON RECORD SO THAT i CAN DEFEND THE VIRTUES OF THIS FORUM. PETER

[ptimber]

SORRY FOR THE TYPO THE WORD IS ......putting NOT PUTING. PETER

[tebor13]

This is to state that if anyone is interested in reading the entire chain of posts they will know why i called you what i did, since you implied that it was 'my time of the month' and other derogatory comments. and it isnt just to me. it was to brujaojos, lololo, stefan. luca04, etc.... SHOULD I GO ON??? May I suggest you stop acting so childish and offer advice and not try to always 'one up' the poster or and/or others who post responses.

Have a great weekend.

Robert

[ptimber]

No I meant it was my time of the month so I wasn't up to par. Peter

[JohnArmellino]

In the Registri dello Stato Civile of Campobasso (CB), I recently ran across a branch of a Graziano family that originated in San Giovanni in Galdo (CB):

Costanza Maria Graziano (b. 22 FEB 1809) m. Michelangelo Iacodoro (b. 24 MAY 1813) on 14 JUN 1835 in Campobasso (CB)

Francesco Graziano (c.1783†1832) m. Pulcheria Credico

Michele Graziano (c.1749†1802) m. Nicolina Zampino

Pasquale Graziano m. Libera Iadiemma [sic]

The source records can be found on VAULT INTL Film 1443299 at MATRIMONI 1835 N. d'ordine 25 and PROCESSETTI 1835 Numero del Registro 25. Perhaps this can be of some help to you, either now or in the future.

[rfiorille]

San Giovanni in Galdo dates back to the 11th century. The fief belonged to the Abbey of Santa Sofia (Benevento) until 1785. Chiesa di San Germano is very old and contains a valuable pulpit and two holy water stoups from the destroyed Chiesa di San Giovanni Battista. The pulpit is supported by two pillars with decorated capitals and pictures of saints on it. The stoups are supported by two large lions. The Church also has a painting of San Giovanni, done in the Neapolitan School, and a wooden statue of San Nicola by Giacomo Colombo. Not far from the town, on top of a hill, are the remains of a small Italic (Samnite) temple dating back to the 2nd century B.C. In April, the Via Crucis takes place, when the local people dress up in old traditional costumes. In May, there is a contest for the best flowered balcony. On August 29th, the Saint Day of the town’s patron - San Giovanni Battista, the feast of precasse is held, which is a special dish made from lamb entrails, eggs, and cheese. On the nights of December 31 and January 6, the maitunate are held, which are traditional serenades by the folk group Zig-Zaghini, which travels around Italy singing and dancing in accordance with old local customs. Cavatelli is the typical home-made pasta of the local cuisine. There are about 900 inhabitants of the town, who are called sangiovannari.

Hi John,
My family is from the town of San Giovanni in Galdo. The director of the folk group Zig-Zaghini is a cousin of my family. I have seen 'some' of the information you have written here on the internet and I find what you've written very interesting. However, I was wondering where you found the all of it. Can you elaborate on your source. My research on the SGG has consisted mainly of internet research and stories from family members. Further information would be of great interest to me.
Thank you,
Robert

p.s. Lyricsmama is a close relation as well! And I see you and I are relatively close in 'distance'!

[JohnArmellino]

Hi Robert - Several years ago while I was in Campobasso, I found a book entitled Molise, una regione da scoprire that contained a section on each of the 136 comuni located in Molise. While the book is written in Italian, it also includes an English synopsis for each comune. According to the title page, it was produced in 1999 by Editrice Studio Emme, Via L. Einaudi, 1, Campobasso, Tel: 0874 482943, E-mail: qmwlm@tin.it. While I was in Campobasso last June, I revisited the bookstore where I purchased it and they still had copies available. Unfortunately, I don't remember the name of the bookstore, although I believe it was located on Corso Vittorio Emanuele.

PS: I was born in JC at Margaret Hague Hospital.

[rfiorille]

Thank you for the information. The part that you wrote regarding SGG, is this the section on the comuni that was written in English?

I have found that I have di Donato relatives that moved in the mid 19th Century to SGG from the comune of Motta Montecorvino. And I've heard that my Great Grandmother Antonietta di Donato visited Matrice often. I guess maybe this is a hint that I would like info on those towns if you have it. I always prefer to get my hands on the book, but I think it will be a while before I make it to Campobasso (and imagine I won't find it easily). I am actually in Slovenia right now, visiting my wife's family. It's too bad it's not so close that I could easily visit Campobasso. I often pass a book store in the City located on W 12th Street called S. G. Vanni that 'has' Italian books. The store hours say that they open normally at 10:30, but they never appear to be open. It would be worth a shot to see if perhaps this book is located there? I have never gone in.

I am originally from the Cleveland area and moved to New York about 9 years ago for school. I've been living in Jersey City for about 8 years now.

I'll let you know if I have luck locating the book. Thank you again for the information.

[JohnArmellino]

Hi Robert -

Yes, my posting is essentially the same as the English synopsis in Molise, una regione da scoprire. The book doesn’t have a chapter on Motta Montecorvino since that comune is not located in Molise. However, it does cover Matrice as follows:

Matice. It is crossed by the Cortile Centocelle cattle-track. Its name comes from the Latin “materâ€Â

[rfiorille]

Hi John,

Thank you for the information -- again! I would like to have pdfs of those pages -- I will send you a pm. And that is true that Motta Montecorvino is not in Molise. I forgot that the book was soley on Molise. I did not find any of the people you mentioned in my database. My research, like I mentioned before, is primarily in SGG and my main line is Fiorilli. If you had a Fiorilli, I'd probably find them in my database. Maybe no relation, but most likely there. If you have any other people from SGG that you are in need of info, let me know. Perhaps I'll have something on them.

I will send you the pm.

Thanks again!

[JohnArmellino]

Hi Robert - I'll send you the .pdf file of the SGG and Matrice chapters. I have loads of Fiorilli in my database (115+), but all originate in Campobasso (CB) with the exception of single entries for Larino, Montagano, Napoli, and San Biase. I'll also send you a list of my SGG entries (65) with the .pdf file. If you ever connect with Campobasso, let me know.

[rfiorille]

Hi John--What is the date range for the Fiorilli you have in Campobasso? My SGG Fiorilli are mainly from the LDS Microfilm that date from 1809 to 1910. It would be interesting to see the Fiorilli in your database as I'm sure some from SGG migrated to Campobasso. I'm curious as to how you are researching (i.e. are you searching direct line with siblings). I have started a database inclusive of all the birth records of Fiorilli in SGG. I'm not sure why I began doing this, but I would like to have all the birth, marriage and death records at some point. Honestly, I have some desire to 'digitize' all the records from SGG and then go there and check pre Napoleonic records. Why?...I'm not sure.
Robert