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Over 25 million Italians have emigrated between 1861 and 1960 with a migration boom between 1871 and 1915 when over 13,5 million emigrants left the country for European and overseas destinations.
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I think you might be right as I looked back at some other documents and found that my grandfather listed the same address 59 Center Street Jersey City NJ when he appied for his Social Security # when he was 30 years old. How do I get the 1930 census corrected? Did a census taker fill these forms out or the people who were giving the info?
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Grombone wrote:...How do I get the 1930 census corrected?
Ummm... I don't think this is possible. Actually, I am pretty certain about it.
Did a census taker fill these forms out or the people who were giving the info?
Nowadays, the Census bureau mails out forms to every household and only sends "enumerators" out to visit those households that do not fill out and return the form in a timely manner.

Back in the early days, the enumerators went door-to-door and interviewed the head of each household. Obviously, there were language difficulties in areas with large immigrant populations. It didn't help, I am sure, that Italians pronounce some important letters (I, E, A) quite differently than English-speakers do.
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Grombone wrote:...How do I get the 1930 census corrected?...
On ancestry. com you can add alternate information.
right side of page: "Add Alternate Information"
I submitted Albano for you
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Thanks so much.
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Hi!
Been looking for your family's 1920 census on and off for the last two days without success. Especially looking in Jeresy City since that is where Antonio Albano's WWI Card was from. Do you have any reason to think they could have been somewhere else?
Thanks! Valarie
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vj wrote:
Grombone wrote:...How do I get the 1930 census corrected?...
On ancestry. com you can add alternate information.
right side of page: "Add Alternate Information"
I submitted Albano for you
Valarie
But, to be clear - doesn't that only affect the ancestry.com database? I mean, this doesn't help in any way regards Grombone's need for certified census reports for submission with his dual citizenship application. Or am I missing the point?
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johnnyonthespot wrote:
vj wrote:
Grombone wrote:...How do I get the 1930 census corrected?...
On ancestry. com you can add alternate information.
right side of page: "Add Alternate Information"
I submitted Albano for you
Valarie
But, to be clear - doesn't that only affect the Ancestry. com database I mean, this doesn't help in any way regards Grombone's need for certified census reports for submission with his dual citizenship application. Or am I missing the point?
Carmine,
You are correct, the alternate information on the surname will only affect the ancestry. com database.
Angelo's SS Application with the same address should help to support the assertion that it is the correct census for his mother if the census is needed.
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Question If I had an attorney draw up an affadavit and had my grandfathers 2 cousins verify that my grandfather name changed when he was taken in by another family. Would that be considered? As so far I cannot find any records of his Original last name on anything other then the records I have from Italy. My grandfather stayed with these two cousins. They are 93 and 95 years old. Thanks
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Or if there was some kind of "adoption papers after the fact" that a judge would recgonize that an adoption had taken place and this is the same person.
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something like this:

NO ________________________________

EX PARTE IN THE DISTRICT COURT
________________________ _________ JUDICIAL DISTRICT

ET UX _______________ COUNTY, TX


APPLICATION FOR ORDER RECOGNIZING VALIDITY OF FOREIGN DECREE OF ADOPTION, NOTARIAL ACT OF ADOPTION, *AND FOR CHANGE OF NAME

TO THE HONORABLE JUDGE OF SAID COURT:

Now come ____________________________ and wife, _________________________, hereinafter called Petitioners, and respectfully show the Court the Following:

I. That heretofore on the _____ day of ________________ , 20 ___ ,your petitioners obtained a Decree of Adoption for the minor child, ___________________________born on_____________in the Country of_____________, in a Court of competent jurisdiction in the country of ______________________, which Decree as a matter of comity is entitled to recognition under the laws of the State of Texas.

II. A photostatic copy of the official translation of said Decree of Adoption is attached hereto and made a part hereof for all purposes.

III. It is in the best interest and welfare of said child that an appropriate order be made and entered by the Court permitting the issuance of a Birth Certificate for said child by the State Registrar of the Bureau of Vital Statistics of the State of Texas.

IV. It is in the best interest of said child that his/her name be changed from
____________________________________ to ______________________________________.

Wherefore, premises considered, your petitioners pray that this honorable Court make and enter its order recognizing said adoption as valid and of full force and effect in the State of Texas, * that the name of said child be changed to ___________________________________ , and for such other and further orders as the Court may deem proper to grant.

____________________________________
Attorney for the Petitioners
* when applicable
Rev. 7/2009
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I bet an attorney could draw somtihg up that says this is the same person and after you supply the judge with the affidavites he could issue a ruling.
I can't find anything like this, and it would prably be the first time a judge did it but the consulate would be abliged to accept it.
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