Cassell wrote:suanj,
I believe he married in Rhode Island in 1900 he claimed he and Mary was married 23 years then that would bring marriage around 1877.
Giving he was named Domenico Francesco whos parents would he be named after Maria's or his Paschale's? I believe a while back i read somewhere on the naming of the kids was named from each of their parents.
Giving all different dates of birth he gives leaves me scratching my head lol. I do see what u mean tho about the date he gave to priest, but i dont see how or why in that day and age he would marry them in a catholic church giving they had 11 kids prior to marring. And on 2nd marriage liscense why he was claiming that to be his first marrage, said them (1929) he was 66 so that again brings it back to 1863. Guess it was easier for him to lie to census takers or maybe they misunderstood him.. very hard to say
But 3 years later when he died he was said to be 60 on death report hmmmmmmm.
Carol
Dear Carol:
I have analyzed the data and frankly the discrepancies are many.
-Perhaps the first wedding was not a legal wedding, that is was only one union without ceremony.
This would explain many things.
Moreover between the born sons, analyzing the first names,
are that:
-there are two sons of name Peter(Pietro), borns in different years and this means that first Peter of years 14 in 1910 had to be died already in 1912 when born second Peter. ..it is use in Italy to renew the name of the dead sons.
-Therefore there are two Mary (Maria/Marian/Marianna and Mary), two John(Giovanni: first John and second John in 1914) etc..
-About the son Michael maiden name Robidoux born in 1915 are possible that really born in Canada, if Anna Robidoux came in Canada for parents visit, when pregnant..
-About the name of parents, Domenico Francesco, calls only a son born in 1917 , Pasquale. This means that the relationship with Pasquale sr father was not optimal in the past. Naturally are hypotheses based on acquaintance of the Italian culture.
-To help of such hypothesis are the fact that in 1919 is born a daughter to which the name of Mary is given, like the mother of Domenico. Therefore in these years (between 1917/1919) Domenico want to honor its parents.
-About various data on census etc, for my experience, I know che frequent are many errors... In Domenico Francesco's case, again analyzing all data, I believe that the different data are intentional... that are supplied erroneous for a reason, since is unthinkable that are these discrepancies only for chance causes ...
-Again for my experience, I believe that are necessary star the search assuming an sure data, the "sure " data most probable: the data in second marriage act. About this marriage (Domenico Francesco Cassel and Anna Robidoux) you have the certificate;
now: are possible for you an request about the "process" of this marriage? Excuse my english, hoping clear, in all marriages, previous the cerimony are an process, that is preliminary papers conserved in the churh archives...You have possibilities of access to this "process"? For catholic marriage, all italians emigrated they demanded in Italy the birth act! This is sure... and sure also in 1929...
-Returning to the first union, my hypothesis that was not a legal wedding between Domenico Francesco and Mary, is helped also from second union: why the legal marriage with Anna Robidoux was in 1929, when all the children were already been born (in fact the last child, Annie died infant, was born in 1929).. this means that Domenico Francesco it was contrary to the legal union in past!
Well: for just start of search please that you search for "process" marriage (Cassel/Robidoux) in Church archive ...if you found are possible discover all....
I continue the search in Italy..
Many regards,
suanj
suanj
