Degirolamo and Granitieri surnames

[lafemmeamrcn]

Looking for Degirolamo and Granitieri surnames from Fogia. Any info/leads appreciated. Thanks.

[vj]

Welcome to the Forum !
We would be happy to help.
Are you looking for US or Italian records or both?
For US records we would need a bit more information, names, approx birth dates, locations, etc.
For Italian records you'll need to know the comune that these folks came from in Foggia.
Thank you, vj

[Romano1970]

There were many that came to america. Forst names and dates of arrival will help to narrow the list for Degirolamo.

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/match ... &dwpdone=1

[PeterTimber]

In Italy records and documents are in the city, town or even small village of origin.....births,marriages, deaths which I presume you know. When you say Foggia thats a provincial capital and may not be the place to obtain records for the majority of peersons making inquiires.

Go to http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... tters.html to write for any document you wish free of charge

Most places of origin are on micorfilm at your nearest Mormon church familyhistory library (www.familysearch.org) where you can rent out the microfilm and trace your family back to 1809.

You can also go to www.paginebianche.it for the townof origin telephone directory. first line name, second line origin town and then click CERCA for full names,addresses and telephone numbers. =Peter=

[lafemmeamrcn]

Thanks for your replies.

I started with my Father's mother and father - Nicholas DeGelorm and Mary Granteed.

Looking for both US and Italian records.

RE: Degirolamo
The town in Foggia is Serracapriola (G-grandfather Luigi DeGelorm spelled it Terrae Apriala) as far as I can tell from his WWII draft registration card. He was born in this city on Jan 2, 1881, again according to the WWII draft registration card. He lists his wife as Mrs. DeGelorm, and that is not helpful to me.

When they came to the USA they settled in Hughestown, Luzerne, PA. Most of the Granteed are in the Pittston, Scranton area of PA. The DeGelorm's moved to Syracuse, NY later.

I haven't found them at Ellis Island because I'm not sure what name they came in under - as you know the names were changed or shortened at the point of entry or maybe even when they got on the ship. I have no idea if he came alone or with his wife and any children.

RE: Granitieri
The name was shortened to Granted and then to Granteed, as far as I can tell. I don't have any birth dates, marriage dates, entry dates. Have been researching in ancestry.com, rootsweb.com, AGBI, SSDI, even the Ellis Island database for most of what I have. It comes in bits and pieces and is difficult because the names have been anglisized or changed completely.

I have not found anything on these names in the mormon database.

Thanks for your help. I'll check out some of the links you've posted.

[vj]

Thank you for the very detailed update.
We'll be happy to see what we can do to help.
Valarie

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If you're interested in newspaper articles about your family this site has a few (you may need to search 'DeGelorm' and check 'fuzzy' search)
http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html
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Just for reference, is this your family in 1930?

1930 census
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/492/1930n.jpg

Home in 1930:
917 Butternut Street
Syracuse, Onondaga, New York

head Louis Orlando
Rose Orlando 22
James Orlando 2 10/12

nephew Nicholas Degelorum 23, abt 1907
Mary Degelorum 17, abt 1913
Nicholas Degelorum 2/12, abt 1919

edit: fixed census link

[vj]

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I started with my Father's mother and father - Nicholas DeGelorm and Mary Granteed.
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RE: Granitieri
The name was shortened to Granted and then to Granteed, as far as I can tell. I don't have any birth dates, marriage dates, entry dates. Have been researching in Ancestry. com, Rootsweb.com, AGBI, SSDI, even the Ellis Island database for most of what I have. It comes in bits and pieces and is difficult because the names have been anglisized or changed completely.
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Granted/Granteed:
Were Mary Granted/Granteed's (b. abt 1913) parents Giuseppe and Carmina?
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Best guess for Mary's father

1918 WWI Draft Registration Card

Joseph Gronatie
signed as Joseph Granatere 42
265 Parsonage
Hughstown, Luzerne, PA
born 1 Jan 1876 in Italy
non-declarant
Lehigh Valley Coal Co
wife Carmina at same address
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A few possible surnames from Foggia:
Granatieri
Granatiero
Granieri
Granato
(there are more)
from this site:
http://italia.indettaglio.it/eng/cognomi/cognomi.html

[vj]

Granatiere/Granted/Granteed

possible census record

1910 census
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4919/1910z.jpg

Home in 1910:
332 North Main Street, rents house
Pittston Ward 3, Luzerne, Pennsylvania

head Joe Greniden 35, abt 1875 IT
- married 4 yrs, abt 1906
- immig 1907
- miner, coal mine
wife Catherine Greniden 20, abt 1890 IT
- 1 child
- immig 1908
son Matthew Greniden 3, abt 1907 IT
- immig 1908

boarders:
Mike Monzant 39
Nick Sandone 26
William Racardo 21
Anthony Manace 19
Donato Manace 21
Dominick Lerazy 23
Joe Rick 30
Dominick Roccoe 29
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Carmina and son Matthew

possible 1908 manifest
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3628/1908s.jpg

page 2
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0019

9 Apr 1908 SS Friedrich Der Grosse, Naples to New York
lines 18-19

Carmina Bisceglie 21, abt 1887
- last residence Vico del Gargano, Foggia
- in Vico del Garganoa brother Pasquale
- destination Philadelphia
- joining husband Giuseppe Granatiere on Christian Street
born in Foggia, Vico del Gargano

son Matteo Granatiere 10 mos, abt 1907

[vj]

Please excuse the length of this post
Valarie
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Granatiere/i/o

Your nearest Family History Center has records for Vico del Gargano from 1809-1929 on microfilm.
The cost is about $6 mo (rent), you’ll need to go to the center to order & view them.

Family History Library Catalog:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library ... t_fhlc.asp

film notes for Vico del Gargano:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library ... ato+civile &columns=*,0,0

Topic:
Italy, Foggia, Vico del Gargano - Civil registration

Titles:
Registri dello stato civile, 1809-1929 Vico del Gargano (Foggia). Ufficio dello stato civile
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In case you aren’t familiar with the Family History Center & Italian records

FamilySearch Home Page
Includes how to find your nearest local Family History Center. You may want to call 1st to confirm the hours they're open.

A helpful essay written by Trish, one of our forum members:
Steps for Finding Microfilm at the Family History Center
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Italian Record Research from FamilySearch guides:
Italy Research Outline
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Also from FamilySearch (PDF format)
Italian Records Extraction - An Instructional Guide
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Three terrific books that can help you find, read & understand your records:

Italian Genealogical Records
How to Use Italian Civil, Ecclesiastical, &
Other Records in Family History Research
By Tafford R Cole
google book link

A Genealogist’s Guide to
Discovering Your Italian Ancestors
How to find and record your unique heritage
By Lynn Nelson
google book link

Finding Italian Roots
By John Philip Colletta, PhD
google book link

[vj]

De/i Girolamo/Degirolamo/DeGelorm

Just for reference, possible census & WWI card records
Valarie
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1920 census
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/390/1920ie.jpg

Home in 1920:
292 Parsonage Street, rents
Hughestown, Luzerne, Pennsylvania

head Luigi De Gelorn 39, abt 1881 IT
- immig 1901, Na 1911
- track layer, railroad
wife Mary De Gelorn 30, abt 1890 IT
- immig 1902
son Nicholas De Gelorn 13, abt 1907 PA
son Micheal De Gelorn 11, abt 1909 PA
daughter Lucy De Gelorn 11/12, abt 1919 PA
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1918 WWI Draft Registrion Card
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5575/1918.jpg

Luigi Degirdamo
292 Parsonage
Hughestown, Luzerne, PA
2 June (or Jan?) 1881
outside labor, Laurel Line RR Co
Scranton Lackawanna PA
wife Concetta, same address
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1910 census
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2561/1910.jpg

Home in 1910:
180 Searle Street, rents
Hughestown, Luzerne, Pennsylvania

head Lewis Gelonn 28, abt 1882 IT
- married 4 yrs, abt 1906
- immig 1902, Al
- laborer, railroad
wife Anna Gelonn 21, abt 1889 IT
- 2 children
- immig?
son Nicholas Gelonn 2, abt 1908 PA
son Michael Gelonn 7/12, abt 1909 PA

edit: added WWI Card

[vj]

De/i Girolamo/Degirolamo/DeGelorm

Naturalization documents:

Declaration
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/936/declaration.jpg

Petition
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6697/petitions.jpg
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1901 Ship Manifest
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/271/1901j.jpg

6 Nov 1901, SS Gallia, Naples to NY
line 2

Luigi di Girolamo 20
- single
- last residence Serracapriola
- destination NY(?)
- joining cousin

[vj]

De/i Girolamo/Degirolamo/DeGelorm

additional Family History Library information

film notes for Serracapriola:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library ... ato+civile &columns=*,0,0

Topic:
Italy, Foggia, Serracapriola - Civil registration

Titles:
Registri dello stato civile, 1809-1929 Serracapriola (Foggia). Ufficio dello stato civile

[lafemmeamrcn]

Re: De Girolamo/DeGelorm

Luigi Degirdamo
292 Parsonage
Hughestown, Luzerne, PA
2 June (or Jan?) 1881
outside labor, Laurel Line RR Co
Scranton Lackawanna PA
wife Concetta, same address

This is my ggfather and ggmother. I could never find anything to confirm Concetta, though. Hopefully, I can find her last name. This is great!

Home in 1930:
917 Butternut Street
Syracuse, Onondaga, New York

head Louis Orlando
Rose Orlando 22
James Orlando 2 10/12

nephew Nicholas Degelorum 23, abt 1907
Mary Degelorum 17, abt 1913
Nicholas Degelorum 2/12, abt 1919

I have this, and I believe that the Orlando's were my grandfather's people, but I'm not sure.


Re: Granatiere/Granted/Granteed

My father told my mother that his mother's mother was Carmella, but it could be Carmina, I suppose.

Well, I'm going to check out all the links and information you have provided me with. Thank you so much.

Kind regards,
Cynthia

[lafemmeamrcn]

De/i Girolamo/Degirolamo/DeGelorm

Naturalization documents:

Declaration
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/936/declaration.jpg

Petition
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6697/petitions.jpg
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1901 Ship Manifest
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/271/1901j.jpg

6 Nov 1901, SS Gallia, Naples to NY
line 2

Luigi di Girolamo 20
- single
- last residence Serracapriola
- destination NY(?)
- joining cousin

How did you find all this information on DeGelorms and Granitieri's? Thanks.

[vj]

How did you find all this information on DeGelorms and Granitieri's?

Hello Cynthia!
All of the records are from ancestry (manifests from Ellis Island)
One record lead to another starting with your information and Nicholas and Mary on the 1930 census.
Since both surnames were hard to find, I searched using first names and approximate birth dates in Luzerne County.
The naturalization records were found after the 1920 census stated that Luigi was naturalized abt 1911. I searched directly in the Ancestry. com. U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1795-1972 database for "Luigi" born 1881 +/- 1 year in Pennsylvania.
Valarie