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Does anyone know which Province in Italy S. Gregono is located? I would appreciate any help in locating where this town can be found.
Thank you.
Jean Galata
Thank you.
Jean Galata
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Jean Galata wrote:Does anyone know which Province in Italy S. Gregono is located? I would appreciate any help in locating where this town can be found.
Thank you.
Jean Galata
There are a number of towns, in different provinces, with San Gregorio in their names. See the link below. What surnames are you researching?
http://www.italyworldclub.com/italian-c ... g-sanm.htm
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Re: Italian Province
Is S. Gregono another way of saying San Gregorio?
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It would help if we knew where you got the name from and, if possible, posted the document or a link to it.
There is no known place in Italy today with "gregono" in its name. No comune (city/town), no frazione (small hamlet or village belonging to a larger city/town) and no province.
A listing of Italian names which begin with G can be found here http://www.nomix.it/nomi-italiani-lettera-G.php
I found this webpage which mentions S. Gregono ("http://www.houseofnames.com/luca-family-crest") http://www.houseofnames.com/luca-family-crest I don't suppose this is your source?
There is no known place in Italy today with "gregono" in its name. No comune (city/town), no frazione (small hamlet or village belonging to a larger city/town) and no province.
A listing of Italian names which begin with G can be found here http://www.nomix.it/nomi-italiani-lettera-G.php
I found this webpage which mentions S. Gregono ("http://www.houseofnames.com/luca-family-crest") http://www.houseofnames.com/luca-family-crest I don't suppose this is your source?
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The Google translator considers Gregono to be the Latin form of Gregory. https://translate.google.com/#la/en/gregono
Also, at the Ellis Island site I found a number of passengers arriving from "S. Gregono M." on a single manifest. Unfortunately, the link to the actual manifest page appears to be incorrect, so I cannot view the actual handwritten document. If anyone else wants to try, start here: http://www.ellisisland.org/search/viewT ... 2446060838
Presuming that the "M." indicates an abbreviation for the final word, today there are two comuni:
San Gregorio Magno in the province of Salerno
and
San Gregorio Matese in the province of Caserta
Unfortunately, both of these places are quite close to Naples, the point of departure for the ship: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/San+Gre ... 854011!3e0
Not sure how much this helps.
Also, at the Ellis Island site I found a number of passengers arriving from "S. Gregono M." on a single manifest. Unfortunately, the link to the actual manifest page appears to be incorrect, so I cannot view the actual handwritten document. If anyone else wants to try, start here: http://www.ellisisland.org/search/viewT ... 2446060838
Presuming that the "M." indicates an abbreviation for the final word, today there are two comuni:
San Gregorio Magno in the province of Salerno
and
San Gregorio Matese in the province of Caserta
Unfortunately, both of these places are quite close to Naples, the point of departure for the ship: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/San+Gre ... 854011!3e0
Not sure how much this helps.

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Okay, here is the above referenced manifest at ancestry.com: http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NY ... rchResults
Looks like S. Gregorio M. to me (Italians are sticklers about dotting their i's; when you see a dot, you can bet that there is an i nearby):

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Looks like S. Gregorio M. to me (Italians are sticklers about dotting their i's; when you see a dot, you can bet that there is an i nearby):

Click to zoom
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Re: Italian Province
I got this from an original ship manifest on Ellis Island. There was was no i and no dot. it was written as S. Gregono for more than one passenger on the page. I'm sure the S. means Saint, but I can't find Gregono anywhere. It must be a form of Gregorio. I, too, have found most of my own. However, I am trying to help a friend who is looking form the Frunzi family from S. Gregono.
Thank you for your input.
Thank you for your input.
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Jean Galata wrote:I got this from an original ship manifest on Ellis Island. There was was no i and no dot. it was written as S. Gregono for more than one passenger on the page. I'm sure the S. means Saint, but I can't find Gregono anywhere. It must be a form of Gregorio. I, too, have found most of my own. However, I am trying to help a friend who is looking form the Frunzi family from S. Gregono.
Thank you for your input.
Jean
If the surname is Frunzi, then it would be San Gregorio Magno in Salerno Province.
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Mille Grazie!!!! Thank you so very much. I can't wait to give this info to my friend.
Jean
Jean
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Jean Galata wrote:Mille Grazie!!!! Thank you so very much. I can't wait to give this info to my friend.
Jean
You're very welcome, Jean.
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Re: Italian Province
Erudita, how did having the surname Frunzi help you to know the exact town and province?
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Jean Galata wrote:Erudita, how did having the surname Frunzi help you to know the exact town and province?
Jean
Hi Jean
My mother-in-law's parents were from the town of San Gregorio Matese (formerly known as San Gregorio d'Alife). That town is in Caserta Province. I spent years researching the town's state civil records from the early 1800s to the more recent records, so I knew off the top of my head that the surname Frunzi did not exist there.
Then I looked at some other websites-
http://www.avitrees.com/welcome.jsp
This website above was comprised from immigration records, as far as I know. So, if you search the surname there, you get only one town name and that is San Gregorio Magno. Now, of course, it's possible that the surname existed in other towns but that people did not immigrate to the U.S. from those other towns who had that surname.
I also checked the current Italian white pages
http://www.paginebianche.it/ricerca?l=en&qs=frunzi&dv=
The surname exists in the Naples area currently but only one entry has San Gregorio in its town title and that is San Gregorio Magno
The following website will only give you the distribution of the surname throughout Italy and not a specific town-although it says the name is found in 9 towns.
http://www.paginebianche.it/ricerca?l=en&qs=frunzi&dv=
Anyway, I'm very confident that San Gregorio Magno is the town name referred to on the passenger list.
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Wow! I didn't mean to put you through all that trouble, but my friend and I really appreciate it.
Again, MILLE GRAZIE!!
Jean
Again, MILLE GRAZIE!!
Jean
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Jean Galata wrote:Wow! I didn't mean to put you through all that trouble, but my friend and I really appreciate it.
Again, MILLE GRAZIE!!
Jean
Jean
It was no trouble. Happy to help you and your friend.
Erudita