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adelfio wrote:
James Snavely wrote:https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915

Record 243 is the death of Giuseppe Renda Carrozza. Does anyone know why the last name is listed as "Carrozzella" here?
It is the 1858 death record of Giuseppa Renda Carrozzella age 41 daughter of Giuseppe Renda and Giacoma Cusimano I think its either a typo for Carrozza or she remarried a Giuseppe Carrozzella after she married Giuseppe Carrozza in 1830 April 19th

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Thank you Marty

Do you think the Polizzi records I foudn are the right ones?
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James Snavely wrote:
adelfio wrote:
James Snavely wrote:https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915

Record 243 is the death of Giuseppe Renda Carrozza. Does anyone know why the last name is listed as "Carrozzella" here?
It is the 1858 death record of Giuseppa Renda Carrozzella age 41 daughter of Giuseppe Renda and Giacoma Cusimano I think its either a typo for Carrozza or she remarried a Giuseppe Carrozzella after she married Giuseppe Carrozza in 1830 April 19th

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Thank you Marty

Do you think the Polizzi records I foudn are the right ones?
I am also curious about that
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Edward Keeports wrote:
James Snavely wrote:
adelfio wrote:
It is the 1858 death record of Giuseppa Renda Carrozzella age 41 daughter of Giuseppe Renda and Giacoma Cusimano I think its either a typo for Carrozza or she remarried a Giuseppe Carrozzella after she married Giuseppe Carrozza in 1830 April 19th

Marty
Thank you Marty

Do you think the Polizzi records I foudn are the right ones?
I am also curious about that
Hey Edward,
Could you Maybe try to find the death of Giuseppe Carrozza Sr (b. 1805) It should be sometime between 1880 and 1901.
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Re: Giuseppe Carrozza and Rosa Polizzi of Palermo

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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915

Assuming this is the right Polizzi line, the marriage of GioBattista and Benedetta Polizzi is on the top left. (Can't read Benedetta's maiden name, I would appreciate some help with that)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915

Here is the marriage of Bartolomeo and Caterina??? Polizzi

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915

Here is the marriage of Paolo and Elisabetta Polizzi

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915

Here is the marriage of Antonino and Rocchina Polizzi

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915

Here is the marriage of Vincenzo and Dominica Polizzi listed in the index as happening on December 5, 1552

I can't really decipher anything in the 1514-1559 book, could someone please help me with that?

Can someone please tell me whether or not this is the correct family and help with translations?
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REQUEST FOR HELP:

Salvatore had 8 sets of great-great grandparents
So far, 5 of those marriages have been found (numbering is top to bottom on ancestry.com)
1. Rocco Carrozza & Maria Ciolino (found by Marty)
2. Giuseppe Loiacono & Benedetta Santore (found by me)
5. Giovanni Battista Polizzi & Filippa Bonanno (found by me)
7. Filippo Camp & Ninfa di Meo (found by me)
8. Antonino Narisi & Vincenza Cannino (found by me)

3 are still missing, although I searched through the indexes, starting 40 years and ending 20 years before their children's marriages
3. Giuseppe & Giuseppa Renda
4. Rocco & Maria Anna Cusimano
6. Giuseppe & Giuseppa Renda


Could someone please help me locate these?
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adelfio wrote:Marriage of Guglielmo Carrozza and Francesca Raineri
Record #8
1591 April 22nd in the town of Monreale Church of Santa Maria Nuova appeared Guglielmo Carrozza son of Pietro Carrozza and Lauria Carrozza married Francesca Raineri daughter of Antonino Raineri and Grazia Raineri

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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915

Marty


I think this is Guglielmo's death on the top left
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915

And his birth listed in the index of baptisms from 1528 to 1610 (4th from bottom on left)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915

And in the index of the Battesimi, matrimoni, morti 1568-1575 (2nd down on far right)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915

And here's the actual record, #7 on the right, although it is damaged and virtually illegible
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915
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James Snavely wrote:
adelfio wrote:Marriage of Guglielmo Carrozza and Francesca Raineri
Record #8
1591 April 22nd in the town of Monreale Church of Santa Maria Nuova appeared Guglielmo Carrozza son of Pietro Carrozza and Lauria Carrozza married Francesca Raineri daughter of Antonino Raineri and Grazia Raineri

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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915

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I think this is Guglielmo's death on the top left
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915

And his birth listed in the index of baptisms from 1528 to 1610 (4th from bottom on left)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915

And in the index of the Battesimi, matrimoni, morti 1568-1575 (2nd down on far right)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915

And here's the actual record, #7 on the right, although it is damaged and virtually illegible
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915

These records fit into the time frame and are all Guglielmo Carrozza son of Pietro Carrozza and Lauria Carrozza

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adelfio wrote: Marriage of Pietro Carrozza and Lauria Rindicella
Record #8
1565 Jan 7th in the town of Monreale Church of Santa Maria Nuova appeared Pietro Carrozza son of Nicola Carrozza and Costanza Carrozza and Lauria Rindicella daughter of Luca Rindicella and Antonella??? Rindicella
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Marty,
Since Pietro was probably born in another town, I will search for his death record, which may contain his place of birth.
I can't tell for sure, but I think Pietro was listed as alive in Guglielmo's 1591 marriage, but dead in Guglielmo's 1623 death.
Therefore, those are the years I will search first.

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adelfio wrote:Marriage of Guglielmo Carrozza and Francesca Raineri
Record #8
1591 April 22nd in the town of Monreale Church of Santa Maria Nuova appeared Guglielmo Carrozza son of Pietro Carrozza and Lauria Carrozza married Francesca Raineri daughter of Antonino Raineri and Grazia Raineri

PG LINK TO RECORD BOTTOM LEFT
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915

Marty


I think this is Francesca's death on the top left


And her birth listed in the index of baptisms from 1528 to 1610 (12th from bottom on right)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915


And here's the actual record, #26 on the bottom left, although it is virtually illegible
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915
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I will check

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1570 April 30th in the town of Monreale Palermo church of Santa Maria Nuova baptism of Francesca Raineri daughter of Antonino Raineri and Grazia Raineri (no maiden name)

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adelfio wrote:1570 April 30th in the town of Monreale Palermo church of Santa Maria Nuova baptism of Francesca Raineri daughter of Antonino Raineri and Grazia Raineri (no maiden name)

Marty
Thank you Marty

The only Antonino Raineri I found in the marriage index married Silvia Aliseri on May 10, 1563.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915
(about halfway down on right)


I think the index says the marriage should be #3 on the right of this page
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915
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adelfio wrote:Marriage of Saverio Campo and Maria Anna Narisi (After looking closer its Narisi)
1808 Oct 16th in the town of Monreale Palermo church of Santa Maria Nuova appeared Saverio Campo son of deceased Filippo Campo and Ninfa Campo married Maria Anna Narisi daughter of deceased Antonino Narisi and the living Vincenza Narisi. .(No maiden names of the mothers listed have to find the bride and grooms baptism records to get that info)

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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,351253601

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I searched through the 1744-1796 Baptism index for Antonina/Maria Narisi, but couldn't find her.

I found other children of her parents, though
Mercurio Antonino (1778)
Geronimo Rosario (1780)
Angelica Francesca (1781)
Pasquale Salvatore (1786)
Antonino Castrenze (1788)
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adelfio wrote:Marriage of Giuseppe Polizzi and Ninfa Campo
Index#82
1835 Oct 12th in the town of Monreale Palermo church of Santa Maria Nuova appeared Giuseppe Polizzi son of deceased Giovanni Polizzi and Annamaria Oliveri married Ninfa Campo daughter of Saverio Campo and Antonina Marisi

PG LINK TO RECORD RIGHT SIDE 2 DOWN
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,351481601

Marty
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2046915
Death of Ninfa ([di] Campo) Polizzi #187 on left
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I am trying to figure out what cities Salvatore's great-grandparents were from
adelfio wrote:Marriage of Ignazio Carrozza and Francesca Loiacono
1798 Nov 26th in the town of Monreale Palermo church of Santa Maria Nuova appeared Ignazio Carrozza son of deceased Rocco Carrozza and the living Maria Carrozza married Francesca Loiacono daughter of Giuseppe Loiacono and deceased Benedetta Loiacono. .(No maiden names of the mothers listed have to find the bride and grooms baptism records to get that info)

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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,351253601

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Ignazio from Monreale
Francesca from ?????
adelfio wrote:Marriage of Giuseppe Renda and Giacoma Cusimano
1809 June 5th in the town of Monreale Palermo church of Santa Maria Nuova appeared Giuseppe Renda son of Giuseppe Renda and Giuseppa Renda married Giacoma Cusimano daughter of Rocco Cusimano and Maria Anna Cusimano..(No maiden names of the mothers listed have to find the bride and grooms baptism records to get that info)

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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,351253601

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Giuseppe from Monreale
Giacoma from Palermo (are these records microfilmed?)
adelfio wrote:Marriage of Giovanni Polizzi and Annamaria Oliveri
Index#
1787 Jan 8th in the town of Monreale Palermo church of Santa Maria Nuova appeared Giovanni Polizzi (widower of Catarina Di Maio)son of deceased GioBattista Polizzi and Filippa Polizzi married Annamaria Oliveri daughter of deceased Giuseppe Oliveri and Giuseppa Oliveri.(No maiden names of the mothers listed have to find the bride and grooms baptism records to get that info)
PG LINK TO RECORD BOTTOM LEFT AND TOP RIGHT
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,351246401

Marty
Giovanni from Monreale
Anna Maria from ?????
adelfio wrote:Marriage of Saverio Campo and Maria Anna Narisi (After looking closer its Narisi)
1808 Oct 16th in the town of Monreale Palermo church of Santa Maria Nuova appeared Saverio Campo son of deceased Filippo Campo and Ninfa Campo married Maria Anna Narisi daughter of deceased Antonino Narisi and the living Vincenza Narisi. .(No maiden names of the mothers listed have to find the bride and grooms baptism records to get that info)

PG LINK TO RECORD BOTTOM LEFT
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,351253601

Marty
Saverio from Monreale
Anna Maria from ?????
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