1948 Case with Luigi Paiano

[Riccardo]

Call him. Either on Skype of public telephone

[Qliner]

i exchanged a couple emails with him over the past couple days but he seemed very busy and I am awaiting a response. My guess is that he's dealing with the after August catch up and flood of work since I heard the courts basically shut down in August.

[Qliner]

Luigi has all my documents (except 1 but he can go on without it for now) and translations are done, now we just wait! He said it could be six months before we get a court date.

[cuervotux]

Hi! I'm from argentina and I have my case with Luigi. I've start recovering every paper that were necessary in April. In May I send every paper translated and apostille with the payment.

Days later he send me the date of the first audience, that will be the December 1st. I look forward to that day arrives.

Do you know the delay time after the first hearing until the sentence? And then? What has to happen after that?

Thank you very much!

[manu]

@cuervotux read the last two pages. Or three. They should give you an approximate timeline.

[tc86]

Hi all, has anyone ever had success with a 1948 law situation like mine?

It's much more simple than some of the others I've read about on this board. My paternal GM was born in Sicily and was still an Italian citizen when my dad was born in the U.S. -- in mid-October 1947. So about 10 weeks on the wrong side of the 1948 law. I don't have any Italian ancestry on my mother's side or through my paternal GF.

I'm thinking maybe the simplicity of my situation just makes it more of a bright-line case (ie, "Nope, you missed the deadline, sorry") rather than some of the more convoluted situations ("My GGGM's naturalization is complicated etc etc").

Anyone have a similar situation?

[manu]

Hi all, has anyone ever had success with a 1948 law situation like mine?

It's much more simple than some of the others I've read about on this board. My paternal GM was born in Sicily and was still an Italian citizen when my dad was born in the U.S. -- in mid-October 1947. So about 10 weeks on the wrong side of the 1948 law. I don't have any Italian ancestry on my mother's side or through my paternal GF.

I'm thinking maybe the simplicity of my situation just makes it more of a bright-line case (ie, "Nope, you missed the deadline, sorry") rather than some of the more convoluted situations ("My GGGM's naturalization is complicated etc etc").

Anyone have a similar situation?

It's a straightforward 1948 case. Get your father's birth certificate, then yours, then contact Luigi Paiano.

[jpnewell]

Hi everyone,
I've been following this thread for around a year, and finally have most of our paperwork together for our 1948 case with Luigi Paiano. There are 13 of us, but 2 are minors aged 10 and 14. I've been communicating off and on with Luigi, and the last message was that we would need to sign over power-of-attorney to him and he would send the form. Well, he never sent the form, and I just emailed him but received and out of office reply. My daughters live far away (one is in Africa) and are home for the holidays and leave Tuesday. So I'm wondering if any of you have a blank power-of-attorney you could send me, or advise me as to what needs to be included. We're hoping to get these done tomorrow, so it's quite last minute. Thanks in advance for any help/suggestions.

[OpusReticulatum]

Hi everyone,
So I'm wondering if any of you have a blank power-of-attorney you could send me, or advise me as to what needs to be included. We're hoping to get these done tomorrow, so it's quite last minute.

Hi.

I just saw your message today.

I'm not sure if this will reach you in time, but I can provide you with a copy.

Please check your PM.

[Paula7928]

I will also be using Luigi for our case. My understanding is that his firm does not provide translation services. Is it the case that we have to hire a certified translator and then his translator just verifies that the translation was done correctly?

[G.O]

Hi Everyone,

I'm finally posting here on this forum after a really long journey. My sister and I have been looking into Italian citizenship for probably as long as 10 years. Our Italian ancestor was my father's mother and my father was born at the end of 1947! So my grandmother coudn't pass on her citizenship to him because she was not considered a citizen before 1948. We were constantly searching on the Internet for ways to get around the 1948 law and became aware of Luigi Paiano around 2009 when the first few people started cases with him. My family (4 of us) was finally convinced to go through with the process in 2012 and we started getting documents together.

Our timeline then went as follows:

December 2012: email Luigi Paiano with details of the case and enquiry, we decide to proceed and start gathering the necessary documents.

August 2013: All documents collected, apostilled and sent and first fees paid.

November 2013: First court date given for February 2014 and 2nd part of the fees to be paid.

February 2014: Court Date.

May 2014: Receive decision that we are awarded Italian citzenship! 3 months after court date. Remaining fees to be paid and tax to be paid.

5 months to get authentic copies of decision to send to municipality that will register the italian birth records in the local registry.

The court made a spelling mistake with one of our names. Had to be corrected by the judge/court.

March 2015: The spelling mistake was corrected but apostilled original birth certificates lost.

June 2015: New, translated, apostilled birth certificates sent to Mr Paiano. Documents sent to the commune.

We are very happy to have been awarded Italian citizenship by the courts and can recommend Mr Paiano to assist with the process.

Now we are just impatiently awaiting our births to be registered at the commune in Torino so we can get our birth certificates/identity cards and Italian passports!

Does anyone have any experience with the Torino municipality? We have been told that it could take a bit longer as they have a lot more work to get through in the bigger cities. Will it help for us or someone we know to go there? Does anyone know if there is there anything we can do to check up on the process?

[James]

Hi Everyone,

I'm finally posting here on this forum after a really long journey. My sister and I have been looking into Italian citizenship for probably as long as 10 years. Our Italian ancestor was my father's mother and my father was born at the end of 1947! So my grandmother coudn't pass on her citizenship to him because she was not considered a citizen before 1948. We were constantly searching on the Internet for ways to get around the 1948 law and became aware of Luigi Paiano around 2009 when the first few people started cases with him. My family (4 of us) was finally convinced to go through with the process in 2012 and we started getting documents together.

Our timeline then went as follows:

December 2012: email Luigi Paiano with details of the case and enquiry, we decide to proceed and start gathering the necessary documents.

August 2013: All documents collected, apostilled and sent and first fees paid.

November 2013: First court date given for February 2014 and 2nd part of the fees to be paid.

February 2014: Court Date.

May 2014: Receive decision that we are awarded Italian citzenship! 3 months after court date. Remaining fees to be paid and tax to be paid.

5 months to get authentic copies of decision to send to municipality that will register the italian birth records in the local registry.

The court made a spelling mistake with one of our names. Had to be corrected by the judge/court.

March 2015: The spelling mistake was corrected but apostilled original birth certificates lost.

June 2015: New, translated, apostilled birth certificates sent to Mr Paiano. Documents sent to the commune.

We are very happy to have been awarded Italian citizenship by the courts and can recommend Mr Paiano to assist with the process.

Now we are just impatiently awaiting our births to be registered at the commune in Torino so we can get our birth certificates/identity cards and Italian passports!

Does anyone have any experience with the Torino municipality? We have been told that it could take a bit longer as they have a lot more work to get through in the bigger cities. Will it help for us or someone we know to go there? Does anyone know if there is there anything we can do to check up on the process?

Welcome to the forum, I can't comment on any specifics of Torino, but just wanted to congratulate your ten+ year adventure! I am sure the wait was worth the reward!

-James

[cuervotux]

Hi! I'm Italian...

I still have to wait the certified sentece, for the comune to make the birth certified. Luigi said that this may take 11 month. I leave here my timeline on the court. Before the it takes me 3/4 month get the cerficates in Argentina, translate them and legalice them.

29/05/2015 - ISCRIZIONE RUOLO GENERALE
08/07/2015 - ASSEGNAZIONE A SEZIONE
28/07/2015 - DESIGNAZIONE GIUDICE
03/09/2015 - FISSAZIONE UDIENZA PRIMA COMPAR. / TRATT. (art.183 ai sensi art. 168 bis, c.5)
03/09/2015 - PASSAGGIO ATTI AL PM/PG
30/09/2015 - RITORNO ATTI DAL PM/PG
01/12/2015 - IN DECISIONE CON RINUNCIA TERMINI PER CONCLUSIONALI
23/12/2015 - DEPOSITO MINUTA SENTENZA DEFINITIVA
12/01/2016 - DEPOSITO SENTENZA - PUBBLICAZIONE
12/01/2016 - INVIO ATTI ALL'AGENZIA DELLE ENTRATE

Andrés

[Qliner]

@Paula7928: Luigi's office doesn't provide translation services, but he has someone that he sends the docs to and she emails you and you work with her directly. There are 11 of us going through the process, we had some extra documentation to provide additional proof of my mother's citizenship and name changes. All together, translations came to about $750 - $800 which I wired to the translator.

One note to anyone new to this: do not use Western Union online services to wire your money. It ends up being MUCH cheaper to just do it through your bank, or in my case, my credit union.

[manu]

@Qliner I use transferwise which is much much less expensive than even going through your bank. I've used it for over two years to wire money from the US to my account and to Luigi, with absolutely no issues whatsoever.

https://transferwise.com/u/a6fc0b

That's the signup link. Good luck!