Latin anyone? Please Help w/ Translation

[Rossonero3]

Looking for help with getting information from my ancestor's death extract if anyone is fairly proficient in Latin.
The photo attached is what I believe to be the death extract of "Cosmo Sarcione" (my 5th great-grandparent). This record is part of the Processetti marriage packet for my great uncle "Carmine Sarcione" who was married in 1858, his father Nicola Sarcione was dead at the time of marriage and his Estratto di Morte is included in the package as well but in Italian so I understand what it says. I was surprised that the Groom's grandfather, Cosmo's death needed to be included also, but it was which is really cool but it's written in Latin! If anyone could give me the 'gist' of this with proper dates and names etc, I would much appreciate it!

Here's what i could make sense of in this document, please correct me if i'm wrong.
- Line #1 gives a date of 1738 which I believe could be the birth date of the deceased Cosmo. (This age makes sense since his son Nicola was born in abt. 1782)
- Line #2 gives a name of Cosmo Sarcione
- Line #3 gives a name of Agnesa Cipolla, who I believe was Cosmo's wife based on another document
- Line #8 shows the name of the church (Sant' Elena di Imperatrice, this is located in our frazione of Tuorocasale in Marzano Appio, Caserta)

[liviomoreno]

Date of Death 14 October 1787
Cosmo Sorcione, son of deceased Erasmus, husband of Agneta Cipolla. Aged 45.

[Rossonero3]

Date of Death 14 October 1787
Cosmo Sorcione, son of deceased Erasmus, husband of Agneta Cipolla. Aged 45.

Grazie mille Livio! Was I wrong about the birth date of 1738? On which line(s) does it say 14 Oct 1787?

Mark

[liviomoreno]

The birth date is on the very first line:
Anno D.ini millesimo septing.mo ottog.mo septimo

1858 is the date the certificate was issued (May 26)

[Rossonero3]

The birth date is on the very first line:
Anno D.ini millesimo septing.mo ottog.mo septimo

1858 is the date the certificate was issued (May 26)

Thank you. So do you think it was 'copied' from an original in 1787? I've been looking at dozens of documents in the early 1800's and they are always written in Italian, but I know going back further in time that Latin was the preferred language to write in.

[liviomoreno]

Yes it a copy made in 1858 to be used for a marriage.

[Rossonero3]

Thanks again!

Forza Il Capitano!

[carubia]

So do you think it was 'copied' from an original in 1787? I've been looking at dozens of documents in the early 1800's and they are always written in Italian, but I know going back further in time that Latin was the preferred language to write in.

It's not a question of which language was "preferred." Civil records were written in Italian whereas church records were written in Latin. Since civil records only began to be kept in the early 1800s (e.g., 1820 in Sicily where I research), any records from earlier than that would have to have come from the church and thus would be in Latin.

However, it is true that originally everything in Italy was written in Latin and Italian was only spoken. I find that notarial records in the 17th century were often written in Latin, even though these were not church records.