This first link - below - is one I had translated here before. It's the death record of Domenico Migliarese who was married to Antonia Romano- his third wife..
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
BUT.. I just found this matrimony record which I believe is for Domenico and Antonia and it's also in april 1882. Now that's a short marriage.
Can someone confirm and translate the matrimony record.
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
marriage was the death of him
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AngelaGrace56
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Re: marriage was the death of him
Oh!!! Well, that is really sad, but then it is even more tragic, because he actually died on the same day they married????
This is what I'm reading:
The Death was registered on 14 April 1882 at 11.45 am. It says he died "today" so, 14 April 1882, at 3.15 am., Via Castello.
He married Mariantonia Romano the same day he died. What is totally bizzare is that the marriage was registered at what looks like 9.15 pm that day (ie 14 April 1882.)????? So it seems like he was dead when they married????? They married in Via Castello, No 20, and not in the Town Hall.
(The previous record is dated 9 March and the one after this one is dated June.)
I haven't completely read through the rest of the marriage record but I believe that there is an explanation in the last paragraph of the record. I notice there is reference to a medic being involved.
Hopefully some one else can look at this for you. I'll take another look tomorrow if no one else does but I'm still tried to get my head round this.
Angela
This is what I'm reading:
The Death was registered on 14 April 1882 at 11.45 am. It says he died "today" so, 14 April 1882, at 3.15 am., Via Castello.
He married Mariantonia Romano the same day he died. What is totally bizzare is that the marriage was registered at what looks like 9.15 pm that day (ie 14 April 1882.)????? So it seems like he was dead when they married????? They married in Via Castello, No 20, and not in the Town Hall.
(The previous record is dated 9 March and the one after this one is dated June.)
I haven't completely read through the rest of the marriage record but I believe that there is an explanation in the last paragraph of the record. I notice there is reference to a medic being involved.
Hopefully some one else can look at this for you. I'll take another look tomorrow if no one else does but I'm still tried to get my head round this.
Angela
Re: marriage was the death of him
Angela is right, he was dead when he married. Of course, there must be an error in the date of the wedding.
The marriage record states that he was a widower since 1848, and one of the "attached" documents is the certificate by a physician, stating he was seriously ill, and in danger of death. I don't know what to think...maybe the witnesses and the clerks declared false, or it was just an error.
The "allegati" are here:
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... gati/1882/
if you want to check to find the related ones.
The marriage record states that he was a widower since 1848, and one of the "attached" documents is the certificate by a physician, stating he was seriously ill, and in danger of death. I don't know what to think...maybe the witnesses and the clerks declared false, or it was just an error.
The "allegati" are here:
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... gati/1882/
if you want to check to find the related ones.
Giuseppe "Pippo" Moccaldi
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Re: marriage was the death of him
Looking at the death act...PippoM wrote: 05 Mar 2020, 10:39 Angela is right, he was dead when he married. Of course, there must be an error in the date ( or time) of the wedding.
The marriage record states that he was a widower since 1848, and one of the "attached" documents is the certificate by a physician, stating he was seriously ill, and in danger of death. I don't know what to think...maybe the witnesses and the clerks declared false, or it was just an error.
The "allegati" are here:
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... gati/1882/
if you want to check to find the related ones.
Domenico is listed (at the time of his death) as the husband in the third place of Antonia Romano. This seems to indicate that the marriage had already taken place before the declaration of his death on 14 April at 11:45 AM.
I would agree that there is likely an error on the marriage act - Maybe it should be AM and not PM???
T.
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AngelaGrace56
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Re: marriage was the death of him
My thinking is that they possibily married the day before Domenico died, and that the notification of the marriage wasn't received at the Town Hall until the day after. The Clerk then wrote the information into Part II of the Marriage Registry dating it 14 April 1882. (Juggling with the times on 14 April doesn't seem to work.)
They obviously intended to marry, but possibly later in April, as indicated by the following Pubblicazione which is dated 8 April 1882. The first bann was posted the next day, on 9 April 1882.
Another thing though, that I find perplexing, is that the next two banns were then posted as usual – one on 16 April 1882 and the last on 20 April 1882 – so this was after the Groom's death????? Very strange. Maybe communication had not been passed on about the groom's passing?
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 4.jpg.html
Angela
They obviously intended to marry, but possibly later in April, as indicated by the following Pubblicazione which is dated 8 April 1882. The first bann was posted the next day, on 9 April 1882.
Another thing though, that I find perplexing, is that the next two banns were then posted as usual – one on 16 April 1882 and the last on 20 April 1882 – so this was after the Groom's death????? Very strange. Maybe communication had not been passed on about the groom's passing?
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 4.jpg.html
Angela
Re: marriage was the death of him
OH WOW, this is a very interesting situation and I suppose for the purposes of my family tree, I will write that he died soon after his wedding. Thank you all for looking into this. Poor Mrs. A widow after, perhaps a few hours of marriage. Wasn't she about 23 yrs younger than him? Wonder what was going on that this old man, seriously ill, decided to move ahead with a marriage to a younger woman?
