Trying to find Info on ggrandpa SABATINI

[wldspirit]

Ok....something is off...perhaps a mistake on the census.......
but the 1920 census and the 1910 census do not match up.........

1910 Ladd, Illinois, Bureau county:

Agido Sabbatini age 49, married for 21 years, immigration 1892

wife Rose age 41, has had 6 children, 5 are living, immigration 1902

son Homer age 18, born in Italy, immigration 1902

daughter Katie age 16, born in Italy, immigration 1902

son Joseph age 6, born Illinois

duaghter Mary age 5, born Illinois

daughter Eleanor age 3, born Illinois

Brother Albans age 47, single, born in Italy. immigration 1902

Who is Homer and where is Ermenegildo???

Lisa

[suanj]

ok......this one was much easier........

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8624/cauj09ur0ve.gif

Lisa

Hi Lisa here are wrote that Ermenegildo was born in Montese town ( Modena province).. I believe that this can be the right person that we search... many thanks, suanj

[suanj]

Ok....something is off...perhaps a mistake on the census.......
but the 1920 census and the 1910 census do not match up.........

1910 Ladd, Illinois, Bureau county:

Agido Sabbatini age 49, married for 21 years, immigration 1892

wife Rose age 41, has had 6 children, 5 are living, immigration 1902

son Homer age 18, born in Italy, immigration 1902

daughter Katie age 16, born in Italy, immigration 1902

son Joseph age 6, born Illinois

duaghter Mary age 5, born Illinois

daughter Eleanor age 3, born Illinois

Brother Albans age 47, single, born in Italy. immigration 1902

Who is Homer and where is Ermenegildo???

Lisa

Hi Lisa are same child also if the first name is spelled different.... however in WWI draft registration card the name is right! that great find! kisses, suanj

[wldspirit]

You knew exactly from where he came!!!!

You do amaze me.........

much hugs,
Lisa

[suanj]

a good luck second my idea that most Sabatini in Ill was related and especially in Bureau county:
in the censuses are:
1930 United States Federal Census Record
Census

Name: Masimo Sabatini
Birth: abt 1864 - location

Residence: 1930 - city, Bureau, Illinois

WELL: THIS IS THE SHIP'S MANIFEST:

Sabatino,Massimo Montese 1901 37 1864
http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 4837020112

joining Giuseppe Sabatini brother, and in travel with sister in law Letizia PiANELLI and arturo Sabatini son her (wife of Giuseppe Sabatini )in Ladd, ILL....
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1930 United States Federal Census Record
Census
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Name: Peter Sabatini
Birth: abt 1880 - location

Residence: 1930 - city, Bureau, Illinois


THE SHIP'S MANIFEST:
Sabattini,Pietro Montese 1903 24 1879

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 2718080003
Pietro in travel with Luigia PASSINI wife, both joining Giuseppe Sabatini brother in Ladd ILL......... *
* in this 2 ship's manifest many people of Montese came in Ladd ILL, a great emigration!

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I cannot find Giuseppe in the census, but is this ship's manifest and the name is crossed by the phrase" not on board", but what is interesting the right record...

Subattini,Guiseppi Montese 1903 29 1874
http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 4178020765

also are this record:

Sabatini,Giuseppe Montese, Italy 1901 23 1878

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 5374030222
and joining Giuseppe Bernardi uncle in Spring Valley
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I think that also Egidio was one of this brothers.....

...
regards, suanj

[suanj]

others Sabatini from Montese in Ill USA:


Amalile (Amabile) Sabattini Montele, Italy 1912 18
Amadeo Sabattini Modena Montese, Italyy 1907 4
Domenico Sabattini Montese, Italy 1904 40
Pietro Sabattini Montese, Italy 1908 28

I hope to find Egidio family!

regards, suanj

[wldspirit]

This area that they came to......well all in Bureau county was coal mining,
and there are many small towns, LADD is one of these.
It has been awhile since I was up there, but I seem to remember a big hill which was the result of digging for coal.........

Ladd is a very small town.......like Talamello........only about 1200 persons.
Many, many Italians there..........near to this same area is Springvalley where my Nonno and Nonna arrived.......but they did not stay long.

So it is very likely that these Sabatini are all related........
Hugs and Kisses,
Lisa

[wldspirit]

Here is Peter's draft registration:

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2528/draft7vp.gif

wldspirit

[wpd172]

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You guys are amazing!!!! I can't wait to get home to night so I can go thru all your posts closely!! I think Ermenegildo is A WINNER! I can't belive all the different spellings of the last name.
THANK YOU!

[wldspirit]

Just don't get overwhelmed with our "online brainstorming"......

It appears that there was an entire family who immigrated, brothers, with wives and children to follow..........the whole area was advertised in Europe with regard to the coal mining, the ads made it sound like paradise........

My Nonno tricked my Nonni into coming here, she came from a well to do family, he told her he had a mansion for her when she arrived......what she found waiting for her was Nonno and a boarding house in Springvalley!!!! But he made good on his promise......he worshiped the ground she walked on........

The best part, Suanj was right in her observation of the town of origin....so now it will be possible to send to Italy for documents......but there are still some ship manifest to find........

Lisa

[suanj]

This area that they came to......well all in Bureau county was coal mining,
and there are many small towns, LADD is one of these.
It has been awhile since I was up there, but I seem to remember a big hill which was the result of digging for coal.........

Ladd is a very small town.......like Talamello........only about 1200 persons.
Many, many Italians there..........near to this same area is Springvalley where my Nonno and Nonna arrived.......but they did not stay long.

So it is very likely that these Sabatini are all related........
Hugs and Kisses,
Lisa

Hi Lisa, yes i agree, and laso Montese is no far from Talamello.. perhaps your ancestors knowing the Sabatinis!!
I hope that we can find the ship's manifest of Egidio and Ermenegildo... but no most free time for me today, in Italy today is the republic feast... however we hope of to find it on ellis island! Kisses, suanj

[suanj]

Here is Peter's draft registration:

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2528/draft7vp.gif

wldspirit

Hi Lisa, I believe that this is right Egidio Sabatini, father of Ermenegildo:

Sabatini,Egidia 1893 33 1860 ( Egidio: male and no Egidia as transcripting ...)
http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 3509100818
because the age is correct and was in travel with a Silvio BERNARDI and a Glicerio PASINI and we know that this surnames are related with the Sabatini in ladd, and I know( already another professional search in Montese) that this surnames are of Montese...
so now we must find Ermenegildo.... kisses, suanj

[wldspirit]

I will try to see what I can find before my appointments today......what a way to start the weekend........oral surgery......

I do not remember any Sabatini.........
Will have to ask Mom on that one............
There was also a BERARDI family, they to went to Springvalley but moved to Pekin, Illinois.........I wish there was a way to get a hold of all the employee records of my Nonno's........he hired only Italian to work in his coal mine and one french family.......many of the Italians followed him to Pekin to work for him from Springvalley, and most of them were from the same area near Talamello.

Happy Republic Feast!!

Hugs & Kisses,
Lisa

[nuccia]

I will try to see what I can find before my appointments today......what a way to start the weekend........oral surgery......

Lisa

No drugs this time Lisa...remember what happened last time you went.....?

Good luck

Nuccia

[suanj]

Hi lisa: good luck for your oral surgery............ brrrrrrrrrrr................!! I believe that your living relatives perhaps remember something..

many kisses, suanj


and thanks for republic feast best wishes....!