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11 November 1612

Death of Nicolao (archaic spelling of Niccolo???) La Camara, son of the deceased Mario??? Antonino and ????? La Camara, of Monreale, aged about 68 (born ca 1544)

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1631???

Death of Antonina La Camara, widow of Nicolao, daughter of father and mother??? originally from???, aged about 70 (born ca 1561).

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Andrea Roccamatisi, son of deceased Giovanni Nicola (written as Joan Cola) and Carolina/Caterina Roccamatisi marries Geronima, daughter of deceased Nicolao and living Antonina La Camara, of Monreale.

Are Nicolao and Antonina here the same people as the parents of Geronima?
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Edward Keeports wrote: 01 May 2021, 08:25 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2046915

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11 November 1612

Death of Nicolao (archaic spelling of Niccolo???) La Camara, son of the deceased Mario??? Antonino and ????? La Camara, of Monreale, aged about 68 (born ca 1544)
Yes, Nicolao is referred to the same saint(s) as Nicola and Niccolò.
This one was the son of the deceased "Maestro" Antonino ("Maestro" is an artisan, like a mason, or a carpenter) and Ligutina (never heard this name before).
Notice that there's an abbreviation mark over an "a" in "Camara", so, that's not the exact spelling.
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Edward Keeports wrote: 01 May 2021, 08:25 Middle right

1631???

Death of Antonina La Camara, widow of Nicolao, daughter of father and mother??? originally from???, aged about 70 (born ca 1561).
Date is "a dì detto" ("on the same day (as previous record)"), i.e. Sep 11th, 1631
Antonina la CaMMara, was the daughter of deceased Angelo di Beddia. I don't see her mother's name, nor place of origin.
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PippoM wrote: 03 May 2021, 15:50 Yes, Nicolao is referred to the same saint(s) as Nicola and Niccolò.
This one was the son of the deceased "Maestro" Antonino ("Maestro" is an artisan, like a mason, or a carpenter) and Ligutina (never heard this name before).
Notice that there's an abbreviation mark over an "a" in "Camara", so, that's not the exact spelling.
Thank you Pippo! I wonder if Ligutina is some sort of mistake? Maybe the name has something to do with Liguria and is actually supposed to be writted "Ligurina"?
PippoM wrote: 03 May 2021, 15:50 Date is "a dì detto" ("on the same day (as previous record)"), i.e. Sep 11th, 1631
Antonina la CaMMara, was the daughter of deceased Angelo di Beddia. I don't see her mother's name, nor place of origin.
I think her place of origin is Carini. Nicolao la Camara marries Antonina di Bellia in Carini in 1581, and -dd- is a common Sicilian variant of -ll-.

I don't think it's la Cammara, I think it's la Cámara, with an accent mark, because that's a Spanish surname. I think this family is originally Spanish, since Spain ruled Sicily at the time. I'm trying to find more on Antonino, see if maybe his parents were from Spain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_de_la_C%C3%A1mara
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