Marriage Date_1840
Marriage Date_1840
Looking for Date (missing) ? of Marriage----see August as month.
Line No.61----no date here
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... d=27548718
Parents--for Michelangelo De Luca
Giovanni--Maria Tesoriero
Parents--for Rosanna Bertuccio
Giuseppe--Bartolomea Tesoriero
Image 123---light/poor)
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Nicholas
Line No.61----no date here
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... d=27548718
Parents--for Michelangelo De Luca
Giovanni--Maria Tesoriero
Parents--for Rosanna Bertuccio
Giuseppe--Bartolomea Tesoriero
Image 123---light/poor)
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
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Re: Marriage Date_1840
The marriage promise is dated 6 August 1840 but the marriage didn't take place. Giuseppe Bertuccio, father of the prospective bride was deceased.
Angela
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Re: Marriage Date_1840
Ok !!!
the first child I found for them was a Michelangelo De Luca b 1847_d 1886
5 children between 1847 > 1858
Marriage search continues !!
Nicholas
the first child I found for them was a Michelangelo De Luca b 1847_d 1886
5 children between 1847 > 1858
Marriage search continues !!
Nicholas
Re: Marriage Date_1840
???? Angela
Where was Rosanna Bertuccio born ?__hard to read__
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
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Where was Rosanna Bertuccio born ?__hard to read__
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
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Re: Marriage Date_1840
teckat wrote: 24 Sep 2021, 18:46 ???? Angela
Where was Rosanna Bertuccio born ?__hard to read__ Santa Marina
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
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Re: Marriage Date_1840
liviomoreno wrote: 24 Sep 2021, 19:54teckat wrote: 24 Sep 2021, 18:46 ???? Angela
Where was Rosanna Bertuccio born ?__hard to read__ Santa Marina
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Nicholas
I'm reading Panaria but it is possibly a mis-spelling of Panarea. Can you link us to 1847 birth record of their son.
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Re: Marriage Date_1840
Panarea is a hamlet of Lipari and there are some records on line for Panarea but when I looked previously not a lot.
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Re: Marriage Date_1840
1847 birth for Michelangelo not available-on site(Missing) year
1851 for daughter Maria__http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it/v/Archivio+di+Stato+di+Messina/Stato+civile+della+restaurazione/Santa+Marina/Nati/1851/1285/005053740_00106.jpg.html
1855 for son Francesco_http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it/v/Archivio+di+Stato+di+Messina/Stato+civile+della+restaurazione/Santa+Marina/Nati/22_01_1855-31_08_1855/1285/005053740_00152.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=0
1858 for daughter Rosanna _http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it/v/Archivio+di+Stato+di+Messina/Stato+civile+della+restaurazione/Santa+Marina/Nati/1858/1285/005053740_00253.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=0
1851 for daughter Maria__http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it/v/Archivio+di+Stato+di+Messina/Stato+civile+della+restaurazione/Santa+Marina/Nati/1851/1285/005053740_00106.jpg.html
1855 for son Francesco_http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it/v/Archivio+di+Stato+di+Messina/Stato+civile+della+restaurazione/Santa+Marina/Nati/22_01_1855-31_08_1855/1285/005053740_00152.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=0
1858 for daughter Rosanna _http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it/v/Archivio+di+Stato+di+Messina/Stato+civile+della+restaurazione/Santa+Marina/Nati/1858/1285/005053740_00253.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=0
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Re: Marriage Date_1840
Thanks for posting these links.
I guess it is possibile that they did get married in 1840, shortly after the promise of marriage was declared, and that maybe the church details, for whatever reason, were then not annotated … not sure??? It’s a little strange though that their first child wasn’t born until 1847? .... but there may have been miscarriages, or maybe births that weren’t registered, during those years. I don't know.
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I guess it is possibile that they did get married in 1840, shortly after the promise of marriage was declared, and that maybe the church details, for whatever reason, were then not annotated … not sure??? It’s a little strange though that their first child wasn’t born until 1847? .... but there may have been miscarriages, or maybe births that weren’t registered, during those years. I don't know.
Angela
Re: Marriage Date_1840
Found son Michelangelo, born on 6 Jul 1846 not in 1847.
looking over birth records,now believe surname for family is Di Luca / and not De Luca
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
still searching
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looking over birth records,now believe surname for family is Di Luca / and not De Luca
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
still searching
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Re: Marriage Date_1840
I wondered about Michelangelo's birth year because I noticed that the 1847 records were in fact online so I went through them but didn't see a record there for him.teckat wrote: 26 Sep 2021, 07:10 Found son Michelangelo, born on 6 Jul 1846 not in 1847.
looking over birth records,now believe surname for family is Di Luca / and not De Luca
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
still searching
Nicholas
You may find the name Di Luca/De Luca swings a bit. I have the surname in my history and it changes here and there.
Angela
Re: Marriage Date_1840
Found this birth record for a Giovanni__1840-8 December
Farher --Michelangelo De luca _b. abt 1816
Mother--Rosanna ???? poor read _b.abt 1816
her age fits-24, his a little off-22
Image 25
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
It's a long shot ??
Nicholas
Farher --Michelangelo De luca _b. abt 1816
Mother--Rosanna ???? poor read _b.abt 1816
her age fits-24, his a little off-22
Image 25
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
It's a long shot ??
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Re: Marriage Date_1840
Good catch. I believe that there is an error in this birth record. Instead of writing the mother of the baby "Rosanna Bertuccio", they have written her name as Rosanna Tesoriero, which is the surname belonging to both Michelangelo and Rosanna's mothers. This must be the Giovanni who married Maria Concetta.teckat wrote: 27 Sep 2021, 05:56 Found this birth record for a Giovanni__1840-8 December
Farher --Michelangelo De luca _b. abt 1816
Mother--Rosanna ???? poor read _b.abt 1816
her age fits-24, his a little off-22
Image 25
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
It's a long shot ??
Nicholas
Birth No 23: Giovanni di Luca
Registered 8 December 1840, Santa Marina Salina
Father: Michelangelo di Luca, 22 yo, proprietario, living in said Contrada who presented a male born from Rosanna Tesoriero, 24 yo, living with him, his legitimate wife. Born the same day as the registration.
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Re: Marriage Date_1840
Following on from my previous post, here is a notorised document which I understand is addressing/correcting the error relating to his mother's surname in his birth document. It was amongst Giovanni and Maria Concetta's marriage allegati.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=581209
Angela
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=581209
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Re: Marriage Date_1840
That Giovanni on 1887 marriage record is 35 yr old -born in 1852
Point to note; ?
The birth record link above for a Giovanni was from 1840 !
Nicholas
Point to note; ?
The birth record link above for a Giovanni was from 1840 !
Nicholas