Town or neighborhood called Giosenale in Napoli

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Town or neighborhood called Giosenale in Napoli

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I am researching the Oliva family in Pennsylvania. Paolo Oliva's burial record gives his place of origin as "giosenale" Napoli. The closest I can come to finding a place by this name is a road called Via Giovenale near Fuorigrotta. I have looked for records in Fuorigrotta, Chiaia, and Posillipo and some other surrounding areas, but found no records for this family. Can anyone help me identify where in Naples this "Giosenale" might be? Thank you!
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Genbridges wrote: 02 May 2022, 19:39 I am researching the Oliva family in Pennsylvania. Paolo Oliva's burial record gives his place of origin as "giosenale" Napoli. The closest I can come to finding a place by this name is a road called Via Giovenale near Fuorigrotta. I have looked for records in Fuorigrotta, Chiaia, and Posillipo and some other surrounding areas, but found no records for this family. Can anyone help me identify where in Naples this "Giosenale" might be? Thank you!
more than one Paolo Oliva lived in pennsylvania.. if you can add infos abt your ancestor maybe finding his arrival we can know more..

in brackets we write the province to which that municipality belongs...
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Agree with Suanj. Without more accurate specific information it is extremely difficult to help you. How old was he? When did he show up in Pennsylvania? Did he naturalize? The immigration & naturalization documents are often the best ones to look for clues to point of origin.

See how this Paolo Oliva's biography was built https://www.familysearch.org/tree/perso ... s/G4GZ-B8F
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Paolo Oliva was born 2 Jul 1859 in Italy. He arrived in New York in June 1883, married Anna DeCina in 1884 and died 24 September 1933 in Hazleton, Pennsylvania. I have pretty much all available information in the US. I am looking for help identifying the place name (picture above) where he was from in Italy. This was written on the burial record from the Most Precious Blood Catholic Church where he and his family attended in Hazleton, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania. This is the only place where a birth place name other than "Italy" was mentioned.
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...His parents names were Amadio Oliva and Carmela Matteo.
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In Posillipo district, where is Giovenale st from 1856 to 1859 on the 2 or so June no one Paolo Oliva.
I suspect that Gioseale is a wrong spelling if Poggioreale
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This appears to be the family's records/tree (with many significant discrepancies). It is noted on the 1910 census that Paolo/Paul has naturalized + the 1920 notes that Paolo & Anna both naturalized in 1892----have you located those records?


https://www.familysearch.org/tree/perso ... s/9668-K4Y


1889 Marriage record shows birth 2 July 1859
12 June 1883 immigration (apparently based on info given) shows birth ~1856 "United States Italians to America Inde ... Maryland. and "New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1891," ... on, n.d.).

1910=50 / 1920=60 / 1930=71
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