Please help! Are these the same people in both records?

[italian059]

I was looking for the marriage record of Biagio Pomilla and Nicolina di Frisco. I found this but the last name of Biagio looks like di Puma. I am attaching this record and also a copy of a marriage record of their child Anna Pomilla. Can someone tell me if the parents in the marriage record of Anna are the same people in the other marriage record. Any info would be appreciated. The dates seem to be in line but the name of Biagio is different.
Mary

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2046915

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,351683101

[darkerhorse]

Blasi is an older version of Biaggio.

[darkerhorse]

I think Sicilians might say "pummu" for apple ("pomo"), so the two surnames could be related.

[erudita74]

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=968450

do you have this marriage record? the father is Biagio Pomilla and the mother is Nicolina di Frisco -for their son Giuseppe March 6, 1832.

[erudita74]

Mary
Do you have this family on wikitree? Whoever put the info about Nicolina there seems to think that Biaggio di Puma is the same person as Pomillo. I see in her 1837 death record that her parents are the same as in the 1796 marriage record but I'd rather see their names in her baptism record, and Biaggio's parents' names in his baptism record.

There is Ron who posts on this forum who is doing extensive research on the Puma surname. He may have some insights for you about the surname and variations in it's spelling.

Erudita

[italian059]

Thanks so much, Erudita. I did not even have Giuseppe on my tree. Please verify his spouse's name. I see Vincentia Grizaffi??? Not sure of her maiden name. Biagio Pomilla was my 6x great grandfather so I am very interested in the correct spelling of the name. So how do I find Ron? Do you think Puma and Pomilla are the same?Will check Wikitree also. Thank you!

[erudita74]

Mary

Here's the link to the wikitree-and some of the info there-there are references to the specific records at the bottom of the page there which I did not copy here, so go to the link

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Di_Fisco-2

Nicolina Di Fisco (abt. 1776 - 1837)
Nicolina Di Fisco aka Di Frisco

Born about 1776 in Corleone, Palermo, Sicily

Daughter of Serafino Di Frisco and Arcangela Castro

Sister of Nicolo' Di Fisco, Anna Maria Di Frisco, Natale Di Frisco, Antonina Di Frisco, Luciano Di Frisco, Leoluca Di Frisco, Natale Di Frisco and Arcangela Di Frisco [half]

Wife of Biagio Pomilla — married 9 Apr 1796 (to 15 Jul 1837) in Corleone, Palermo, Sicily

DESCENDANTS

Mother of Arcangela Pomilla, Leoluca Pomilla, Giuseppe Maria Pomilla, Maria Pomilla, Anna Pomilla, Anna Pomilla, Antonina Pomilla, Leoluca Pomilla and Serafino Pomilla

Died 15 Jul 1837 at about age 61 in Corleone, Palermo

The wife of the son Giuseppe in the 1832 marriage-Vincenza Grizzaffi

As to whether the Biaggio's are the same person-I have found that priests and their assistants did sometimes make changes in the spelling of surnames in their records, but I still don't like to jump the gun and say they are the same person without additional proof. For my husband's ancestry, for example, I found a change in spelling occurred with the surnames of the children born later in the marriage, and not with those born soon after the marriage. But only one letter in the middle of the name was changed- an "r" was changed to an "l." After that, the "r" completely disappeared from the surname in all records. I do, however, think that the two surnames are related from an etymology point of view, as darkerhorse stated above. Both are derived from the word for apple.

Anyway, there is a lot of info with this wikitree, so hopefully it will aid you in your research.

Erudita

[erudita74]

Here's Ron's contact info on the forum. You can contact him via private message to discuss the surname

rp76226

[erudita74]

I meant to add that the suffix "illo" or "illa" means "small," so I would search for the baptism records of the children of Biaggio and Nicolina to see if the spelling of the surname changed from Puma or di Puma to Pomillo or Pomilla when the children started being born.

[italian059]

Erudita,
You are great! Thanks so much. I have been really busy today but can't wait to start researching. Thanks again.
Mary

[erudita74]

Hi Mary
Have fun with the research and do keep us updated. Always happy to help you, when I have the time.
Erudita