Luigi Tosto Notation in Birth

[vortex150]

Help please with Notation on birth of Luigi Tosto on 13 May 1909 at Catania, Catania, Italy. Also having trouble reading the name of the mother Salvatrice last name.

Thanks very much!

[PippoM]

It says mother's surname has to be corrected to Cleonzaga (? sorry, but I can't read it!, hope someone can help)

[liviomoreno]

It says mother's surname has to be corrected to Cleonzaga (? sorry, but I can't read it!, hope someone can help)

I read Gonzaga

[Tessa78]

This appears to be a birth of another child born to the same couple in 1907.

Father is Salvatore Tosto, and his occupation is the same, panettiere.
Mother's given name is Salvatrice, and surname looks like Guzzono(?)
Address seems right.
Child is Paolo Giuseppe Tosto.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043496

Possibility? Though the spelling of the surname in Catania is Guzzone, I believe.

T.

[Tessa78]

Found this possible marriage index entry - Salvatrice's surname appears to be CONZAGA,

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043496

Tosto Salvatore di Paolo with Salvatrice Conzaga di Luigi - #88 (but I have not been able to locate it.


T.

[vortex150]

Wow, thanks Tessa, yes looks correct as another child in 1907. Here is the link to Luigi in 1909 also.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043496

On 2 Ship lists immigration shows another child Providenza Grazia Tosto born abt 1914 at Militello.

1921 Passenger list
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/co ... 4025631298

1935 Passenger List
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/co ... d=30118820

We are still trying to find marriage of Salvatore Tosto and Salvatrice, or death info.

Oh wow, just saw your reply on marriage!!! Super thanks!

[Tessa78]

Yes, I found the marriage in the index and searched the entire year, page by page, and did not find them. Maybe you will have better luck

Your 1921 ship manifest confirms the surname for Salvatrice. She is listed as Salvatrice Conzaga Guzzone.

ALSO...
What I see on the 1935 ship manifest is that Provvidenza Grazia was born in USA and is a US Citizen . Salvatrice Conzaga Gussone is listed as born in Militello.

T.

[vortex150]

Found the marriage of Tosto and Salvatrice Conzaga on previous set of images as number 88.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043496

Thanks also for looking at ship manifest

[Tessa78]

Here is the marriage act in 1906 for Salvatore Tosto and Salvatrice Conzaga. They both signed the marriage act

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043496

Bride and groom were both born in Militello.
Salvatore Giuseppe Tosto was 26, baker, son of deceased Paolo and of [living] Provvidenza Seria.
Salvatrice Conzaga was 18, tailor, daughter of deceased Luigi and of [living] Sebastiana Vasta.
NOTE: Sebastiana Vasta was on the 1921 ship manifest with Salvatrice and children.

Birth of Salvatore Tosto on 24 December 1879 in Militello with annotation of marriage with Salvatrice Conzaga
#375
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1483039

Birth of Salvatrice Conzaga Guzzone on 1 January 1888 in Militello.
There is an annotation of her marriage with Salvatore Tosto.
There is ALSO an annotation of her death in 1985.
#1
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1483039
#1

T.

[vortex150]

oh WOW!! just now seeing this! I have been looking for those 2 births! of Salvatrice and Salvatore.
Will need to study.

You are amazing Tessa!

[Tessa78]

Happy to help!

The marriage act gave the clue to the births being in Militello.

However, I have not been able to find Provvidenza Grazia Tosto birth in either Militello or Catania. I searched years 1912 - 1916.

Going back another generation...
Here is the marriage of Luigi Conzaga Guzzone Neglia (age 22) with Sebastiana Vasta (age 16) ---(parents of Salvatrice Conzaga) ---in 1886 in Milittello...
#48
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1483039

T.

[vortex150]

On the birth of Salvatrice, does it say Luigi and Sabastiana Vasta are not married, or just living with each other?

Also I have not seen so many surnames attached to Italian records! So is Luigi last name Neglia-Conzaga-Guzzone? What does that mean as far as his parents last names?

[Tessa78]

On the birth of Salvatrice, does it say Luigi and Sabastiana Vasta are not married, or just living with each other?

Also I have not seen so many surnames attached to Italian records! So is Luigi last name Neglia-Conzaga-Guzzone? What does that mean as far as his parents last names?

On the marriage act - Luigi's surname is Conzaga Guzzone Neglia.
In Sicily there are many who have double surnames (supranome) to help distinguish branches of the families. This is the first time I have encountered a triple surname.

NOTE: I posted Luigi and Sebastiana's marriage above.
They were married in 1886.
Women in Italy keep their maiden name -
Yes, they were living together [as husband and wife] moglie=wife
And Salvatrice's surname is also Conzaga Guzzone Neglia, which was shortened to Conzaga on her marriage act.

T.

[vortex150]

Wow, you keep surprising me! Was just looking for that marriage. Nice find again!

Does it say the father's name of Luigi as Nicolo? Hard to read

Thanks is just not enough!

[Tessa78]

Yes, Luigi's father is deceased Nicolo, and mother is not named.

Sebastiana Vasta's father is Paolo, and mother is deceased Rosa Seria.

EDIT:
This is the link to the allegati (attachments) to the marriage records for Luigi and Sebastiano.
It contains the births of the spouses as well as required death acts, certificate of notification, etc.

What I found is that Luigi Consaga(this is the spelling) was an abandoned child and was presented at the town hall by the woman who was the Receiver of the abandoned . He was given his name by the official.

Subsequently, (the second record in the folder) in 1885, Nicolo Guzzone Neglia appeared with a notarized "recognition" of Luigi Consaga as his son. So that is where the 3 surnames came from.
Also, it mentions that Nicolo's father is the deceased Paolo. Another generation back...

Interestingly, also included among the records is Nicolo's death in 1885 at age 63, naming his parents, but also stating the he was unmarried.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1483039

As I said, Sebastana's birth is included, as well as the death of her mother, Rosa Seria.

T.