1839 Father Unknown or Missing ?

[teckat]

11 Jan 1839
Was the Father Unknown or Missing ? for Antonino. The Mother Angela, uses her surname ( Trapani ) for official birth and Baptism.

No. 12 - 14 di 437 • pag. 14-15

https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 25/5Ya16WB

Nicholas n' Joan

[darkerhorse]

The father Angelo appeared in person to report the birth of his son Antonio.

[darkerhorse]

He's listed on the 8th line down...e' comparso Angelo Trapani(?) (appeared Angelo Trapani).

[darkerhorse]

The father is also named in the index.

[AngelaGrace56]

The mother Angela appeared in person to report the birth of her son Antonino.
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The jmother is also named in the index.

He's listed on the 8th line down...e' comparso Angelo Trapani(?) (appeared Angelo Trapani).

There is no father mentioned in the record, nor the index, and the child is Antonino, as teckat has said.

Angela

[AngelaGrace56]

11 Jan 1839
Was the Father Unknown or Missing ? for Antonino. The Mother Angela, uses her surname ( Trapani ) for official birth and Baptism.

No. 12 - 14 di 437 • pag. 14-15

https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 25/5Ya16WB

Nicholas n' Joan

The child is referred to as mother Angela's natural son, so I'm understanding that to mean that she wasn't married. I'm not sure what the word is after "domicilato". It looks like vacenda or cacenda but I think basically means that she was living away from him. (I don't think it's saying that she kicked him out of the house. I've not seen either of those words before in civil records. Someone else will chime in I'm sure.)

Angela

[mmogno]

11 Jan 1839
Was the Father Unknown or Missing ? for Antonino. The Mother Angela, uses her surname ( Trapani ) for official birth and Baptism.

No. 12 - 14 di 437 • pag. 14-15

https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 25/5Ya16WB

Nicholas n' Joan

The child is referred to as mother Angela's natural son, so I'm understanding that to mean that she wasn't married. I'm not sure what the word is after "domicilato". It looks like vacenda or cacenda but I think basically means that she was living away from him. (I don't think it's saying that she kicked him out of the house. I've not seen either of those words before in civil records. Someone else will chime in I'm sure.)

Angela

@AngelaGrace56
... è comparsa Angela Trapani di anni ventisei di professione ----- domiciliata in Sciacca quartiere San Michele quale ci ha presentato un neonato secondocché abbiamo ocularmente riconosciuto, ed ha dichiarato che lo stesso è nato dalla stessa dichiarante che disse esser suo figlio naturale tacendo il padre ...

[AngelaGrace56]

11 Jan 1839
Was the Father Unknown or Missing ? for Antonino. The Mother Angela, uses her surname ( Trapani ) for official birth and Baptism.

No. 12 - 14 di 437 • pag. 14-15

https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 25/5Ya16WB

Nicholas n' Joan

The child is referred to as mother Angela's natural son, so I'm understanding that to mean that she wasn't married. I'm not sure what the word is after "domicilato". It looks like vacenda or cacenda but I think basically means that she was living away from him. (I don't think it's saying that she kicked him out of the house. I've not seen either of those words before in civil records. Someone else will chime in I'm sure.)

Angela

@AngelaGrace56
... è comparsa Angela Trapani di anni ventisei di professione ----- domiciliata in Sciacca quartiere San Michele quale ci ha presentato un neonato secondocché abbiamo ocularmente riconosciuto, ed ha dichiarato che lo stesso è nato dalla stessa dichiarante che disse esser suo figlio naturale tacendo il padre ...

@mmogno
Thank you, thank you!!! Tacendo - another new word to add to my vocabulary. (I can see the "tiny" little "t" at the start of the word now. So basically she was not prepared to disclose the name of the father - "keeping silent". Maybe a person of high standing in the community - or some other reason/s.

Angela

[darkerhorse]

I should have known better.

[teckat]

Thanks for the information--Nicholas n' Joan

Found the boy Antonino died at 10 months old. 22 Nov 1839

No. 394 - 201 di 262 • pag. 201
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 91/w6KR9j6

[mmogno]

... nel giorno ventidue [22] del mese di Novembre anno corrente [1839] alle ore duodeci [12] è morto nella casa della sua genitrice Antonino Trapani d'anni uno nato in Sciacca, di professione senza domiciliato ivi quartiere Manica, figlio naturale di Angela Trapani domiciliata ivi ignorandosi il padre naturale ...