did my grandfather naturalize?
did my grandfather naturalize?
I am currently trying to obtion dual citizenship through my paternal grandfather, Franco Franconi, so I can work in Europe. Unfortunately, both of my grandparents are deceased and the rest of the family doesn't know if my grandfather ever naturalized (or my great-grandfather, Ferdinando Franconi, for that matter since my grandfather was a minor when he arrived in the States). In any case, the National Records Center in Missouri has told me it will take anywhere from five months to a year to get this information back. Is there any other way to find out whether he naturalized or not? I could be getting a lot of the paperwork together in the meantime but I'm just out of college and don't have the money to spare if I can't even apply in the end. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'd appreciate any help.
(My grandfather, Franco Franconi, was born in the Reggio Calabria region of Italy in 1909 and came to the States when he was three years old. He returned to Italy when he was 16 for three more years and then finally settled in the Wyoming Valley region of Pennsylvania. Again, his father, Ferdinando Franconi, might have naturalized for the household while my father was still a minor.)
(My grandfather, Franco Franconi, was born in the Reggio Calabria region of Italy in 1909 and came to the States when he was three years old. He returned to Italy when he was 16 for three more years and then finally settled in the Wyoming Valley region of Pennsylvania. Again, his father, Ferdinando Franconi, might have naturalized for the household while my father was still a minor.)
Re: did my grandfather naturalize?
Hi,
Would this be your Ferdinando?
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Record info
about Ferdinando Franconi
Name: Ferdinando Franconi
City: Not Stated
County: Luzerne
State: Pennsylvania
Birth Date: 06 Jun 1881
Race: White
Roll: 1893747
DraftBoard: 2
Looks like he was naturalized... see box 11
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/479/fr ... aftgc6.jpg
Maria
It only took 4 edits... but imageshack is playing tricks on me...
Would this be your Ferdinando?
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Record info
about Ferdinando Franconi
Name: Ferdinando Franconi
City: Not Stated
County: Luzerne
State: Pennsylvania
Birth Date: 06 Jun 1881
Race: White
Roll: 1893747
DraftBoard: 2
Looks like he was naturalized... see box 11
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/479/fr ... aftgc6.jpg
Maria
It only took 4 edits... but imageshack is playing tricks on me...
Re: did my grandfather naturalize?
Why would this document prove that he naturalized? (I'm not challenging you. This is just all new to me.)
Re: did my grandfather naturalize?
I am going to try to link a better sample of a draft card...maddief wrote:Why would this document prove that he naturalized? (I'm not challenging you. This is just all new to me.)
There are other records that we can find...
Maria
Re: did my grandfather naturalize?
1930 census shows Fred Franconi naturalized in 1910, wife Josephine & son Frank in 1911.
Will link the census hopefully in a few minutes, if Imageshack cooperates!
Will link the census hopefully in a few minutes, if Imageshack cooperates!
Researching in San Vitaliano, Napoli, Italy & Armento, Potenza, Italy.
Re: did my grandfather naturalize?
Ancestry Draft card sample "C"mfjp wrote:I am going to try to link a better sample of a draft card...maddief wrote:Why would this document prove that he naturalized? (I'm not challenging you. This is just all new to me.)
There are other records that we can find...
Maria
Name: Ferdinando Franconi
City: Not Stated
County: Luzerne
State: Pennsylvania
Birth Date: 06 Jun 1881
Race: White
Roll: 1893747
DraftBoard: 2
Looks like he was naturalized... (see box 11)
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/479/fr ... aftgc6.jpg
Maria
Re: did my grandfather naturalize?
dup
Researching in San Vitaliano, Napoli, Italy & Armento, Potenza, Italy.
Re: did my grandfather naturalize?
These are the years the come to the states, but the "NA" after meanings that they are naturalized citizens.....not thinking cleaarly tonite...lack of sleep? old age?jcsm400 wrote:1930 census shows Fred Franconi naturalized in 1910, wife Josephine & son Frank in 1911.
Will link the census hopefully in a few minutes, if Imageshack cooperates!
Here is the link to the census record.
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3846 ... 930zd9.jpg
jcsm
Researching in San Vitaliano, Napoli, Italy & Armento, Potenza, Italy.
Re: did my grandfather naturalize?
Could this be him too??
It doesn't show citizenship info... though
Could you verify his birthdate (s)
U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 Record
about Ferdinando Franconi
Name: Ferdinando Franconi
Birth Date: 26 Jun 1881
Residence: Luzerne, Pennsylvania
Birth: Pistio, Italy
Roll: WW2_2240185
Will link image... just for your records...
WW2 info
Maria
It doesn't show citizenship info... though
Could you verify his birthdate (s)
U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 Record
about Ferdinando Franconi
Name: Ferdinando Franconi
Birth Date: 26 Jun 1881
Residence: Luzerne, Pennsylvania
Birth: Pistio, Italy
Roll: WW2_2240185
Will link image... just for your records...
WW2 info
Maria
Re: did my grandfather naturalize?
1910 boat record
Would this be him?? Wife mentioned is a Maria.
First Name: Ferdinando
Last Name: Franconi
Ethnicity: Italy
Last Place of Residence: Pistoia
Date of Arrival: Nov 11, 1910
Age at Arrival: 29 Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Berlin
Port of Departure: Genoa
Manifest Line Number: 0016
If this is your Ferdinando... I don't think he was naturalized in 1910.
Maria
Would this be him?? Wife mentioned is a Maria.
First Name: Ferdinando
Last Name: Franconi
Ethnicity: Italy
Last Place of Residence: Pistoia
Date of Arrival: Nov 11, 1910
Age at Arrival: 29 Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Berlin
Port of Departure: Genoa
Manifest Line Number: 0016
If this is your Ferdinando... I don't think he was naturalized in 1910.
Maria
Re: did my grandfather naturalize?
First Name: Franco
Last Name: Franconi
Ethnicity: Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Pituno, Italy
Date of Arrival: Jul 03, 1911
Age at Arrival: 2y Gender: M Marital Status: U
Ship of Travel: Duca D'Aosta
Port of Departure: Genova
Manifest Line Number: 0013
Page 1 - 1911 Manifest
Page 2
In 1911, he is listed on an Alien manifest if this is the correct Franco...
You did say he returned to Italy... and then back to the USA... hopefully we can find the other boat record...
maria
Last Name: Franconi
Ethnicity: Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Pituno, Italy
Date of Arrival: Jul 03, 1911
Age at Arrival: 2y Gender: M Marital Status: U
Ship of Travel: Duca D'Aosta
Port of Departure: Genova
Manifest Line Number: 0013
Page 1 - 1911 Manifest
Page 2
In 1911, he is listed on an Alien manifest if this is the correct Franco...
You did say he returned to Italy... and then back to the USA... hopefully we can find the other boat record...
maria
Re: did my grandfather naturalize?
Social Security Death Index Record info
about Frank Franconi
Name: Frank Franconi
SSN: 179-28-6613
Last Residence: 18618 Harveys Lake, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Born: 15 Jul 1909
Died: Jun 1973
State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (1952-1953 )
Maria
about Frank Franconi
Name: Frank Franconi
SSN: 179-28-6613
Last Residence: 18618 Harveys Lake, Luzerne, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Born: 15 Jul 1909
Died: Jun 1973
State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (1952-1953 )
Maria
Re: did my grandfather naturalize?
Was there a brother by the name of Ludovico??
Maria
Maria
Re: did my grandfather naturalize?
No, Franco's brother was named Aldo.
So I guess this means that my dreams of dual citizenship are dashed... (
Would I be able to apply through my maternal great-grandparents? Although I would expect them to have naturalized as well.
So I guess this means that my dreams of dual citizenship are dashed... (
Would I be able to apply through my maternal great-grandparents? Although I would expect them to have naturalized as well.
Re: did my grandfather naturalize?
Yes... Aldo was on the 1911 manifest...maddief wrote:No, Franco's brother was named Aldo.
So I guess this means that my dreams of dual citizenship are dashed... (
Would I be able to apply through my maternal great-grandparents? Although I would expect them to have naturalized as well.
I've asked a wonderful forum member to join this post... she may be able to advise you better...
Maria