Stumpo lineage

[DonPietro]

I am trying to find out information about my paternal grandparents, Pietro Stumpo married to Gaetana Filice. Based on my dad’s birth year, 1921, I’m guessing they emigrated (from Calabria) to the US in the 1910’s. They lived in Newark NJ, and both died when my dad was a young child. I’m also hoping to track back to my great grandparents, whose names I do not know.
Thanks.

[PippoM]

Hello,
here is the marriage record of Pietro Rosario Stumpo and Maria Gaetana Felice on Sep 19, 1907 in Rogliano, province of Cosenza:

https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 39/LolzW3p

he was 26, born and resident in Rogliano, son of Antonio, and Serafina Scalzo
she was 19, a spinner, born and resident in Rogliano, daughter of deceased Luigi, and Filomena Altomare

[DonPietro]

Thank you, PippoM for researching this, and then posting what you found. The information you provided most likely pertains to my grandparents… however, I noted a discrepancy in the name of my grandmother. I went back and looked at my father’s birth certificate, certificate of baptism, and certificate of marriage. In all three, my grandmother’s first name is Gaetana, not Marie. In two of the three documents, her last name is spelled ‘Filice’. On my dad’s cert of marriage, however, her last name is spelled ‘Felice’, which is the name you found. I’m thinking perhaps my grandmother preferred the name ‘Gaetana’, so she went by that name.

One of my primary reasons for researching this is to determine if I’m eligible for dual citizenship. My understanding is that I would potentially be eligible, if my grandparents did not become American citizens after they emigrated to the US. Would you happen to know who I should contact to determine if they renounced their Italian citizenship? Thanks.

[PippoM]

It is very usual that a female is given a double name starting with Maria (you do NOT have to think of something like first and middle name used in the USA: in Italy, all the names before a comma, if present, are considered as a first name; as to the use, it's a personal issue...for instance, my cousin is Maria Rosaria (on documents), I call her Rosaria, and her husband calls her Maria.
As to the question of where to get a certificate of non-naturalization, we have a whole section about citizenship issue in this Forum. You can take a look there. However, I think you should turn to NARA and/or USCIS.
Also, census records can tell if a person was naturalized at some time.

[Tessa78]

Following up on Pippo's find...

Here is the birth act of Pietro Rosario Stumpo in Rogliano in 1881
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Dated 30 September 1881 - birth on 28 September 1881
Father: Antonio Stumpo, son of Pietro, age 22, peasant farmer.
Mother: Serafina Scalzo, his legitimate wife, peasant farmer, residing with him.
Child born in their home in Via Petrarizzo.
Given the name Pietro Rosario.

https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 77/LNyp2rO

Do you have any USA records for Pietro?

On his WWI registration card, he indicates that he started the naturalization process.
He checked "declared"
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collect ... cessSource

On his arrival manifest in 1908 (leaving wife Gaetana Felice in Rogliano) I do not see any numerical annotations used for naturalization...
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https://www.ancestry.com/search/collect ... cessSource



T.

[Farassino]

Birth record for Maria Gaetana Filice born on 30 January 1888 in Rogliano.
Parents are Luigi fu Gaetano, 26yo and Filomena Altomare fu Gaetano.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 84/w6nj9Ry

[DonPietro]

It is very usual that a female is given a double name starting with Maria (you do NOT have to think of something like first and middle name used in the USA: in Italy, all the names before a comma, if present, are considered as a first name; as to the use, it's a personal issue...for instance, my cousin is Maria Rosaria (on documents), I call her Rosaria, and her husband calls her Maria.
As to the question of where to get a certificate of non-naturalization, we have a whole section about citizenship issue in this Forum. You can take a look there. However, I think you should turn to NARA and/or USCIS.
Also, census records can tell if a person was naturalized at some time.

You’re been very helpful, Giuseppe… grazie!

[DonPietro]

Following up on Pippo's find...

Here is the birth act of Pietro Rosario Stumpo in Rogliano in 1881
#175
Dated 30 September 1881 - birth on 28 September 1881
Father: Antonio Stumpo, son of Pietro, age 22, peasant farmer.
Mother: Serafina Scalzo, his legitimate wife, peasant farmer, residing with him.
Child born in their home in Via Petrarizzo.
Given the name Pietro Rosario.

https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 77/LNyp2rO

Do you have any USA records for Pietro?

On his WWI registration card, he indicates that he started the naturalization process.
He checked "declared"
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collect ... cessSource

On his arrival manifest in 1908 (leaving wife Gaetana Felice in Rogliano) I do not see any numerical annotations used for naturalization...

T.

No, I do not have any US records regarding either of my paternal grandparents. They both died when my dad was quite young... I’m pretty much starting at ground zero, except for their names and that they lived somewhere in Calabria.

Regarding dual citizenship, I’m still somewhat unclear as to the exact requirements, so I need to do further research. After watching a few YouTubes, however, it appears to hinge on whether I have Italian ancestors they did not renounce their Italian citizenship. Based on what you wrote, it would appear Pietro began the process of becoming an American citizen. I will do as Pippo suggested and contact the USCIS.

Grazie, Tessa!