Making sense of the Castelbuono marriage of Pietro Bertola

[parkergambino]

This is a test to see if my access to the site is functioning, sorry.

Parker

[parkergambino]

Forgive my attempts to diagnose the problem with posting this request. I will add successive fragments to try to figure out and correct whatever the problem is.

First installment:

Esteemed colleagues,

I present my current dilemma to solicit examinations, evaluations, and opinions from the forum members. I have made known my exasperation about the many instances of my Castelbuono forebears and others being inconsistent in their application of Bertola and Bertola-adjacent surnames, and now one more instance has come to light.

First the narrative and documents:

[Pietro Bertola & Santa Collesano] were married in 1832:
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 7D?lang=en

Pietro's parents are recorded as [Antonio 50 & fu Antonia Minneci Minutella). The lineage of Santa Collesano is more straightforward and is not discussed here.

It seems simple enough until the allegati is examined (disclaimer - I am not an expert in translating church records from Latin):
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... Zr?lang=en

- In the extract of the 1805 baptismal record for Pietro (image 34/857), his parents are recorded as Antonio Bertola Minutella and Antonia Minneci Minutella.
- In the extract of the 1825 death act for Antonia Minneci (image 35/857), she is identified as the wife of Antonio Minutella. This is an accurate transcription of the information on the death act at
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... qn?lang=en)

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Second Installment:

- In the 1868 death act for Pietro Bertola he is identified as the widower of Santa Collesano; his parents are identified as [fu Antonio & Antonia Laluna]; I am uncertain that I am reading Antonia's surname correctly (and welcome alternate opinions), but it certainly does not resemble anything seen in the Allegati documents.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... g=en&i=884.

- I believe that the 1850 (#245) death act for Antonio Bertola, a 70-year old widower, is for Pietro's father. It shows his parents to be [fu Pietro & fu Venera Norata]. Here, again, I welcome alternate readings of the name of Antonio's mother.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... Yg?lang=en

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Third installment:

My interpretation:
I'm assuming in the two instances where the civil documents (1832 marriage, 1868 death) identify Pietro's father as "Antonio", it means "Antonio Bertola". That Pietro's grandfather is also named Pietro (as per Antonio's 1850 death) fits well with the naming tradition.

It seems that the 1805 baptismal record for Pietro contains a clerical error, and that Antonio's surname should not include "Minutella". This error is somehow perpetuated in Antonia's 1825 death act, where Antonio's surname does not even include "Bertola"!

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fourth installment:

And for the cherry on top, Pietro's mother identified with the "Laluna" (or whatever) surname on his death act.

So I'm seeing three distinct clerical errors that had me going in circles in some very muddy water. Feedback is welcome!!

Parker

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Lately my MO has been to compose a post using MS-Word, and then copy and paste it into the ItalGen dialog box to either comment on a pre-existing post or to begin a new topic. For this particular post, though, I could not post the message in its entirety (the error message was "Forbidden, you don't have permission to access this resource"), but when the post was broken up into fragments, each segment/installment could be successfully posted. Quite the coincidence, considering my hypothesis of a series of clerical errors muddying the substance of the post!

Has anybody experienced similar posting troubles at ItalGen? I have been in touch with admin about it.

Regardless, if you've made it this far, thanks for slogging through! Perhaps there will be some insight on the substance of this complicated narrative.

Parker