Marriage Records
Marriage Records
Hello,
I am currently looking for my great-grandparents' marriage record for dual-citizenship, but I am having some difficulty. Family history records that they were married in Pittsburgh, but the family has been proven wrong on at least one occasion. Searches of the Italian-Catholic dioceses of Pittsburgh from 1903-1910 and a search of county records were all conducted, but nothing turned up. As my great-grandparents did live in Philadelphia, it is quite possible that they were married there. Both were from Italy, but I do not think it was likely that they were married there, as they did not come to the country at the same time.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you very much,
Joe
I am currently looking for my great-grandparents' marriage record for dual-citizenship, but I am having some difficulty. Family history records that they were married in Pittsburgh, but the family has been proven wrong on at least one occasion. Searches of the Italian-Catholic dioceses of Pittsburgh from 1903-1910 and a search of county records were all conducted, but nothing turned up. As my great-grandparents did live in Philadelphia, it is quite possible that they were married there. Both were from Italy, but I do not think it was likely that they were married there, as they did not come to the country at the same time.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you very much,
Joe
Re: Marriage Records
Joe,
If they were married in Italy, it is highly possible that your great grandfather came to the states first to earn some money and locate a place to live before sending for your great grandmother. Do you know the town(s) where they were born? If they were both from the same town, both their integral birth acts should contain a notation referencing their marriage.
Have you located their ship manifests and/or naturalization records?
Biff
If they were married in Italy, it is highly possible that your great grandfather came to the states first to earn some money and locate a place to live before sending for your great grandmother. Do you know the town(s) where they were born? If they were both from the same town, both their integral birth acts should contain a notation referencing their marriage.
Have you located their ship manifests and/or naturalization records?
Biff
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Re: Marriage Records
Biff,
My great-grandparents were both from the same town, Orsara di Puglia in the province of Foggia. I have located the manifest for my great-grandfather, as well as his birth certificate. I don't have my great-grandmother's birth certificate or her manifest. I know that she would have only been about fourteen when my great-grandfather arrived in this country. I also have a letter of non-existence of a record of U.S. Immigration certifying that my great-grandfather never became a U.S. citizen.
Thanks very much for you help.
Joe
My great-grandparents were both from the same town, Orsara di Puglia in the province of Foggia. I have located the manifest for my great-grandfather, as well as his birth certificate. I don't have my great-grandmother's birth certificate or her manifest. I know that she would have only been about fourteen when my great-grandfather arrived in this country. I also have a letter of non-existence of a record of U.S. Immigration certifying that my great-grandfather never became a U.S. citizen.
Thanks very much for you help.
Joe
Re: Marriage Records
Hi Joe,JoeT wrote: As my great-grandparents did live in Philadelphia, it is quite possible that they were married there. Both were from Italy, but I do not think it was likely that they were married there, as they did not come to the country at the same time.
Joe
Can you tell me when you think your great grandparents would have been married in Philadelphia?
Also can you tell me their names?
Next week I can look at the Marriage Indexes for Philadelphia for the years of 1885 - 1915.
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Re: Marriage Records
Trish,
Their names were Liberatore Tumolo and Mary Acquaviva. Liberatore had an alternate spelling of Liberato and it is possible that Tumolo may have an extra "m".
As for the years, they would have been married some time between 1903 and 1910.
Thank you so much for your help, and if there is anything I can do to help you, please let me know.
Thanks again,
Joe
Their names were Liberatore Tumolo and Mary Acquaviva. Liberatore had an alternate spelling of Liberato and it is possible that Tumolo may have an extra "m".
As for the years, they would have been married some time between 1903 and 1910.
Thank you so much for your help, and if there is anything I can do to help you, please let me know.
Thanks again,
Joe
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Re: Marriage Records
This manifest has Maria (Mary) coming with her father Rocco to Philadelphia to a cousin. Her age is 22.
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 2704020406
I don't know if it's of any help or not. Maybe the cousin's name will look familiar if it's who you're looking for.
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 2704020406
I don't know if it's of any help or not. Maybe the cousin's name will look familiar if it's who you're looking for.
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Every bit always helps!
Thank you so much!
Thank you so much!
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Sorry JoeT I don't think it posted before. Here it is again, she is line 19 and her father Rocco is line 18.
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0019
You're very welcome, I hope it's her.
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0019
You're very welcome, I hope it's her.
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Joe and Elizabeth,
If that's the correct manifest, it shows Maria's marital status as married.
Biff
If that's the correct manifest, it shows Maria's marital status as married.
Biff
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Re: Marriage Records
Yes, I saw that too Biff, but since Joe is having trouble locating a marriage certificate for his great grandparents in the US I thought this might be a possibility - year of travel and age seemed like it might fit (thought Joe or a family member might recognize the cousins name).
Joe maybe you can post your great grandfathers manifest so we can see dates of travel, his age etc.
Elizabeth
Joe maybe you can post your great grandfathers manifest so we can see dates of travel, his age etc.
Elizabeth
Re: Marriage Records
For some reason, I am having trouble getting the manifest to come up on the internet, but I have a copy of it here.
It is dated January 28, 1903 and has my great-grandfather's final deestination listed as Philadelphia. I know from his birth certificate that he was born November 5, 1884.
Thanks again for all of your help!
Joe
It is dated January 28, 1903 and has my great-grandfather's final deestination listed as Philadelphia. I know from his birth certificate that he was born November 5, 1884.
Thanks again for all of your help!
Joe
Re: Marriage Records
Hi Joe,JoeT wrote: It is dated January 28, 1903 and has my great-grandfather's final deestination listed as Philadelphia. I know from his birth certificate that he was born November 5, 1884.
I'm not sure if you have any of this information on great-grandfather? Sorry if I am repeating.
Hope the information helps,
Trish
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Here is the manifest that you were referring to.
Name: Liberatore Cummolo *manifest states Tummolo*
Arrival Date: 28 Jan 1903
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/RaceÂ/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Massilia
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 11
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_319
Page Number: 79
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Here is Liberato's Death Inforamtion.
Name: Liberato Tumolo
SSN:
Last Residence: 15224 Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Born: 5 Nov 1884
Died: Jun 1971
State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (1953-1954 )
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Possible World War I Draft Card information.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6963 ... ar1ac0.jpg
Name: Liberato Tumolo
City: Philadelphia
County: Philadelphia
State: Pennsylvania
Birth Date: 05 Nov 188
Race: White
Roll: 1907527
DraftBoard: 2
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Possible 1942 Draft Card
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8216/1942dz4.jpg
Name: Liberato Tumolo
Birth Date: 5 Nov 1884
Residence: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Birth: Italy
Roll: WW2_2281557
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Possible 1910 census. Per this census, it states Liberato came in 1903 and is still considered an Alien. Maria came around 1893. They were married around 1907.
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5374/1910ff2.jpg
Name: Libera Turnillo
[Libera Tumillo]
Age in 1910: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Mary
Home in 1910: Philadelphia Ward 2, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1903
Libera Turnillo 24
Mary Turnillo 19
Tony Turnillo 3
Michael Turnillo 11/12
Tony Turnillo 75 *states Father-in-law*
Julia Turnillo 67
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Possible 1930 census. Per this Census they were married around 1906. Per this census, Liberato came in 1905 and was already naturalized before 1930.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8038/1930xd5.jpg
Name: Libreto Tumolo
Home in 1930: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Libreto Tumolo 46
Mary Tumolo 40
Anthony Tumolo 22
Michael Tumolo 20
Joseph Tumolo 19
Gilda Tumolo 17
Ralph Tumolo 11
Victor Tumolo 6
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Re: Marriage Records
Trish,
That information is almost certainly my great-grandfather's. This will come in handy.
Thank you very much!
Joe
That information is almost certainly my great-grandfather's. This will come in handy.
Thank you very much!
Joe
Re: Marriage Records
Hi Joe,
I looked in the Philadelphia Marriage Index for Libertore but did not find him.
I checked: Tumolo, Tummolo, Turrolo, To..., Ta... Te.... I tried "Z", "L", "I", and even ""J". Nothing! I even tried her name of Acquaviva. Still Nothing!
However, I do have some information for you for other people. They could be related.
Name - Spouse's Name - Marriage Year
Anna Tummolo - Casanto - 1909
Anna Tumolo - Lombardo - 1914
Antoniette Tumolo - Cimino - 1914
Antonio Tumolo - Curci - 1897
Donato Tumolo - Latrecchi - 1915
Giuseppe Tumolo - Licchetti - 1909
Louis Tumolo - Amato - 1914
Luigi Tumolo - Largomarsino - 1906
Pasquale Tumolo - Toomey -1911
Raffaele - Catalano - 1902
Saverio Tumolo - Gilbert - 1908
Vincenzo Tumolo - DiBona - 1910
Frank Acquaviva - Iafolla -1911
Giovannina Acquaviva - Bianco -1907
Giuseppe Acquaviva - Sarrecchi - 1913
Vincenza Aquaviva - Durante 1890
I hope some of these names help!
Trish
I looked in the Philadelphia Marriage Index for Libertore but did not find him.
I checked: Tumolo, Tummolo, Turrolo, To..., Ta... Te.... I tried "Z", "L", "I", and even ""J". Nothing! I even tried her name of Acquaviva. Still Nothing!
However, I do have some information for you for other people. They could be related.
Name - Spouse's Name - Marriage Year
Anna Tummolo - Casanto - 1909
Anna Tumolo - Lombardo - 1914
Antoniette Tumolo - Cimino - 1914
Antonio Tumolo - Curci - 1897
Donato Tumolo - Latrecchi - 1915
Giuseppe Tumolo - Licchetti - 1909
Louis Tumolo - Amato - 1914
Luigi Tumolo - Largomarsino - 1906
Pasquale Tumolo - Toomey -1911
Raffaele - Catalano - 1902
Saverio Tumolo - Gilbert - 1908
Vincenzo Tumolo - DiBona - 1910
Frank Acquaviva - Iafolla -1911
Giovannina Acquaviva - Bianco -1907
Giuseppe Acquaviva - Sarrecchi - 1913
Vincenza Aquaviva - Durante 1890
I hope some of these names help!
Trish
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Re: Marriage Records
Trish,
I can't thank you enough for your help! I am going to check those names with my family and see what they think. If they don't ring any bells with anyone, I may write to Italy and see what the commune has to say.
Thank you very much!
Joe
I can't thank you enough for your help! I am going to check those names with my family and see what they think. If they don't ring any bells with anyone, I may write to Italy and see what the commune has to say.
Thank you very much!
Joe