I'm trying to find my ancestors, and am having no luck at all. My grandfather was Carmen Cosentino, born in 1908 in Italy, his father was Frank Cosentino, his mother was Josephine. He had a brother named Anthony who also married a woman named Josephine, two sisters Mary and Regina. They came over to the Dunmore, Pennsylvania area. My grandmother's name was Anna Zangardi born in 1912. She was born in the US, but her parents were immigrants. They came over to the Scranton, Pennsylvania area. Her father was Ana.. Zangardi and her mother was Victoria. Her siblings were Mary, Lucy, Fred, John and I know there is more. This information was taken from the 1930 Lackawanna County Census. I believe my mother told one was from the Florence area and the other Ca?? Sicily area. If anyone has any information on either of these families, please, please let me know. I have gotten no where.
Thank You
Cosentino or Zangardi Relatives?
Hi Nina.......
Found this that should help:
Giuseppa Floria, age 35
Antonio Cosentino, age 6
Carmelo Cosentino, age 3
arriving on March 17, 1912 out of Port of Palermo on way to meet husband/father, Francesco Cosentino
Giuseppa left her father, Giuseppe Floria in Castiglione. Arrived on the ship Perugia. the passenger records indicate that Giuseppa (Josephine) was naturalized on 4/8/41 and the document # was 3-190451
FrancescoCosentino arrived April 5, 1909 at age 33 and left wife, Giuseppa Florio in Castiglione. On boat Duca Degli Abruzzi out of Genoa.
He was also naturalized a citizen and the document number was
3-149435 and the date of 8/16/38
He had been in the US before from 1906 to 1908. Going to meet his brother-in-law Carmelo Costanzo in NY.
Looks like also arrived on Feb 11, 1906, at 29, on the Sicilian Priiince, out of Messina. This appears to be the first trip as it stated he had not been in US before. Also traveling with him is a Salvatore Cosentina, age 34. Could be a brother.
On June 29, 1911, going to meet her husband, Antonio Zangardi
Vittoria Bubici, age 30
daugher Matilde Zangardi, age 7
daughter Teresa Zangardi, age 5 leaving mother Filomena G--done in Poggio Imperiale, South Italy.
Venezia is the ship. Now, there are two towns called Poggio Imperiale, one in Foggia...which would be south Italy. The other in Forenza...which appears to be where you think she should come from...Forenza is Florence. Looks like a brother named Alfonso also came over in 1909. Cannot find a record for Antonio Zangardi...the name must be really mispelled.
Well, hope this helps. At least you know where in Italy they came from. Get copies of naturalization papers. This will list parents, date of birth, where they were born, etc.
Good Luck
Found this that should help:
Giuseppa Floria, age 35
Antonio Cosentino, age 6
Carmelo Cosentino, age 3
arriving on March 17, 1912 out of Port of Palermo on way to meet husband/father, Francesco Cosentino
Giuseppa left her father, Giuseppe Floria in Castiglione. Arrived on the ship Perugia. the passenger records indicate that Giuseppa (Josephine) was naturalized on 4/8/41 and the document # was 3-190451
FrancescoCosentino arrived April 5, 1909 at age 33 and left wife, Giuseppa Florio in Castiglione. On boat Duca Degli Abruzzi out of Genoa.
He was also naturalized a citizen and the document number was
3-149435 and the date of 8/16/38
He had been in the US before from 1906 to 1908. Going to meet his brother-in-law Carmelo Costanzo in NY.
Looks like also arrived on Feb 11, 1906, at 29, on the Sicilian Priiince, out of Messina. This appears to be the first trip as it stated he had not been in US before. Also traveling with him is a Salvatore Cosentina, age 34. Could be a brother.
On June 29, 1911, going to meet her husband, Antonio Zangardi
Vittoria Bubici, age 30
daugher Matilde Zangardi, age 7
daughter Teresa Zangardi, age 5 leaving mother Filomena G--done in Poggio Imperiale, South Italy.
Venezia is the ship. Now, there are two towns called Poggio Imperiale, one in Foggia...which would be south Italy. The other in Forenza...which appears to be where you think she should come from...Forenza is Florence. Looks like a brother named Alfonso also came over in 1909. Cannot find a record for Antonio Zangardi...the name must be really mispelled.
Well, hope this helps. At least you know where in Italy they came from. Get copies of naturalization papers. This will list parents, date of birth, where they were born, etc.
Good Luck
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Hi Nina...
One should not post so late at night!!!!! Let me correct my mistake first..
Poggio Imperiale is part of Firenze, which is Florence...my error!
Bear in mind that the name of the town also exists in Foggio and that the name Bubici is present in Foggio...it might indicate that they come from the South rather then Florence. You have to consider that fact as well.
A second thought, Castiglione should be listed as Castiglione di Sicilia..makes a difference because so many towns contain that name.
Sorry for not being clear.
The civil records for Castiglione di Sicilia are available on microfilm at the Family Hisotry Library. These are the birth, death, and marriage records of the town. You can track the Cosentino family back to 1820 as the records cover from 1820-1910. Go to www.familysearch.org and check the library holdings.
The numbers of the naturalization documents and the dates help your search tremendously. In this case, the courts in Philadelphia are probably where the records are kept. If you live in that area, you can go to the county courthouse and check there. If not, you can write, including the names, numbers, and dates. The more info the better. You can also e-mail the NARA for the region that covers Philadelphia...go to www.NARA.gov Give them as much info as you have and see what they can find. Most naturalizations were conducted in the county courts. The NARA in California, for example, will probably not have the records. But the NARA that covers Philadelphia probably does. The NARA is the National Archives and Records Administration in case you are not familiar.
You also want to request a copy of the declaration of intent at the same time. These were the first papers the immigrant applied for when he decided to obtain citizenship. The have more information on them then the actual naturalization papers. They often contain the ship he arrived on, the town of origin, name of parents, etc. They can provide a lot more information then the actual naturalization papers.
The Family History Library mentioned above, also may have the records on microfilm for naturalization. If you go to that same site listed above at www.familysearch.org you can search naturalizations for Philadelphia and see what is available. You can also locate a branch of the library closest to your home. This library has access to the largest genealogical information in the world so if you look for family roots, you will probably have to use a branch sometime.
What else can we help with? Have a good day
One should not post so late at night!!!!! Let me correct my mistake first..
Poggio Imperiale is part of Firenze, which is Florence...my error!
Bear in mind that the name of the town also exists in Foggio and that the name Bubici is present in Foggio...it might indicate that they come from the South rather then Florence. You have to consider that fact as well.
A second thought, Castiglione should be listed as Castiglione di Sicilia..makes a difference because so many towns contain that name.
Sorry for not being clear.
The civil records for Castiglione di Sicilia are available on microfilm at the Family Hisotry Library. These are the birth, death, and marriage records of the town. You can track the Cosentino family back to 1820 as the records cover from 1820-1910. Go to www.familysearch.org and check the library holdings.
The numbers of the naturalization documents and the dates help your search tremendously. In this case, the courts in Philadelphia are probably where the records are kept. If you live in that area, you can go to the county courthouse and check there. If not, you can write, including the names, numbers, and dates. The more info the better. You can also e-mail the NARA for the region that covers Philadelphia...go to www.NARA.gov Give them as much info as you have and see what they can find. Most naturalizations were conducted in the county courts. The NARA in California, for example, will probably not have the records. But the NARA that covers Philadelphia probably does. The NARA is the National Archives and Records Administration in case you are not familiar.
You also want to request a copy of the declaration of intent at the same time. These were the first papers the immigrant applied for when he decided to obtain citizenship. The have more information on them then the actual naturalization papers. They often contain the ship he arrived on, the town of origin, name of parents, etc. They can provide a lot more information then the actual naturalization papers.
The Family History Library mentioned above, also may have the records on microfilm for naturalization. If you go to that same site listed above at www.familysearch.org you can search naturalizations for Philadelphia and see what is available. You can also locate a branch of the library closest to your home. This library has access to the largest genealogical information in the world so if you look for family roots, you will probably have to use a branch sometime.
What else can we help with? Have a good day
