Anthony Gallucci...no passenger list, no naturalization?

[Biff83]

The witness might have been his daughter who was named for his mother.

Biff

[searching]

Think I had a major breakthrough here....thanks to everyone who helped.

Marty, the first link you shared from castle garden does, indeed look to be a typo. The written record shows his age as 29! That puts us MUCH closer to his recorded birth year of 1860-1861. I'm pretty sure this is him.
http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NY ... sePUB=true

I ordered the birth records from Faeto yesterday...hopefully it will corroborate my (our!) findings.

[Biff83]

It looks like there are two Antonio Gallucci's from Faeto on the manifest--lines 662 and 675. And it looks like a Giuseppe Ciampa also from Faeto on line 660.

Biff

[searching]

While waiting for the microfilm to be delivered for the time/location of my GG Grandfather's birth, I stumbled upon an online record of births in Faeto for 1875 onward....and I found this:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,348550401

I can't make out some of the names, and I only know about 10 words in Italian, so this is my rough guess. It is a baby girl (named Antonia Prospera Lerino) to a Pietro (hard to read) and Maria Gallucci in May 1776.

Is there anything else here of note?

[carubia]

The surname looks like Serino to me, not Lerino. but if that is a name in your family I guess you would know better. After the father's name (Pietro Serino/Lerino) it says that he is the son of the deceased Giosue' and from Faeto. Pietro is also 45 and a farmhand. The mother Maria Gallucci was the daughter of the deceased Fedele. She was 40 and a farmer. Their daughter was born on the 30th of May.

[searching]

Thanks so much Carubia! Yes, Serino is a better reading. So the father's surname is listed first in these records, then the mother's maiden surname? So the baby is actually a Serino, not a Gallucci. But Maria could well be a relative then.

So when turned a couple more pages, I see this, which looks like the father of this baby was named Pietro Antonio Gallucci...I don't know what to make of the di Angelo, di Luisa, di Girolomo after his name though. Is that the baby's brothers and sisters?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,348550401

So, if I understand how to read this correctly, this baby was Pietro Antonio Gallucci, his father was Angelo Gallucci, son of Francesco (Gallucci)? Her father was Cosmo(?) and she was a farmer - 'contadina'

The formats are a bit confusing, especially when written rather than typed.

[Bean]

Hello Gallucci Cousin,

I have some additional information on Anthonio Gallucci, my great grandfather.

His first wife (my great grandmother) was Maria Dominica Baschetta (later spelled Bashet). She died in August 1904 when she fell down a flight of steps in her home (ref. New Castle News article), leaving seven small children. Several months later, Antonio Gallucci married his second wife, Maria Ciampa (known later in life as Mary Champ). She died in New Castle in 1936 after bearing him three addition children.

One of those children was Charlotte Gallucci (Scungio). According to her death certificate, she was born in 1903 in Caserta, Italy. Antonio of New Castle, Pa is listed as the father. It should be noted, however, that he was still married to his first wife, Maria Baschetta, at this time. The birth took place a year before her tragic death.

A pregnant Maria Ciampa was apparently sent back to Italy to have Antonio's baby! One can only speculate how this might have contributed to Maria Baschetta’s “accidental” death, but it does explain why he quickly remarried.

[carubia]

So when turned a couple more pages, I see this, which looks like the father of this baby was named Pietro Antonio Gallucci...I don't know what to make of the di Angelo, di Luisa, di Girolomo after his name though. Is that the baby's brothers and sisters?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,348550401

So, if I understand how to read this correctly, this baby was Pietro Antonio Gallucci, his father was Angelo Gallucci, son of Francesco (Gallucci)? Her father was Cosmo(?) and she was a farmer - 'contadina'

Yes, the baby was Pietro Antonio Gallucci, the father was Angelo Gallucci, age 30, the father of the father was Francesco Gallucci, deceased, and the mother was Lucia Di Girolamo, age 30. I don't see where you're seeing the name Cos(i)mo.

[searching]

Hey Bean...nice to meet you (sent you a private message to introduce myself). That would explain a lot...I'd hoped Maria just met with an unfortunate accident/illness and that, left with 7 kids, Antonio just found another wife asap. Your theory, especially given the illegitimate birth, may be closer to the truth.

However, I'd love to see Charlotte's birth certificate because I wonder if it is possible that Charlotte was born in Caserta to Maria and another man, (who died shortly after), then Maria moved to the US, met Antonio, and had a whirlwind wedding.

Also, do we know that Maria was in the US prior to this 1903 date? I wonder if there is a record of her travels back to Italy prior to the birth, then back to the US afterward. The 1910 census shows that she immigrated in 1905, and Charlotte isn't mentioned as one of the kids...just 'Rosie' who was 2 yrs old.

More importantly, all the kids are mentioned as having been born in Pennsylvania, not Italy.

Is 'Rosie' Charlotte's nickname? You can see the record here: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse. ... =106892662

[searching]

For anyone who is curious, this is the most detailed family tree that I know of http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/58014949/family

I'm currently trying to find where Antonio and his first wife (Maria Dominica Baschetta), who are at the top of the tree, came from for purposes of a jus sanguinis case.

I thought this might be her travel history https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVPN-GQJC but the name/date on the manifest is a bit off from the 1910 census record that puts her birth at 1875 and her immigration year at 1892. Even if it is her, it doesn't give a town.


There is no record of Maria & Antonio's marriage in New Castle's vital statistics (where they lived), and so finding birth/marriage certificates without more to go on is like finding a needle in a haystack. The 1910 Census indicates they were married in 1892. I've ordered public records from Faeto based upon earlier findings in this thread.

Also, another point on Charlotte...this post seems to suggest Antonio was considered her step-father and not her biological father?
http://www.genealogy.com/forum/regional ... ates/2331/

[Bean]

I'm attaching the Pennsylvania death certificate for Charlotte Gallucci Scungio. You will note the father is Antonio Gallucci and her place of birth is Caserta, Italy. The birth date is July 26, 1903.

I've also attached the New Castle News article on Mary Gallucci's death in August 1904.

[Bean]

Sorry for the poor resolution.

Additionally, I left a response to your private message.

[searching]

As I stated months ago, I'm hoping to pursue the jus sanguinis option for Italian citizenship, but had hit a number of roadblocks.

I'm now circling back with some more info since the earlier exchanges.

I wrote to USCIS for naturalization records, but none were found. I suppose this is good for the sake of jus sanguinis, since the first ancestors were not to have naturalized if they were to pass their citizenship along to their children.

However, my greater hope was to find my great-great-grandfather's place of birth, but USCIS had no record of him.

So I wrote to the local Catholic diocese, and while they could not find any record of marriage for his first wife, my great-great grandmother Mary Bascehetta, they DID have his mother's name, Catherine. This info allowed one of my relatives to find her history, and I'll share what followed:

Antonio was apparently born in Baia, a village in Caserta a few miles from Liberi, which is where the Perretta family is from (my grandmother's father's surname). Most of the early Italian immigrants to New Castle were from this region, so it makes sense.

I've attached a doc that one of my relatives copied with what he believes is the family tree...I think he is correct, but I don't have access to the 'world traveller' section of Ancestry, so I can't go much further. However, here is a summary of the history as I understand it.

• 1. Antonio's father's first name was Angelo, not Rafaele. So, I'm guessing that he went by his middle name.
  2. He married around age 34 and was about 43 when Antonio was born (approx 1861)
  3. He was born in Comune DiBaia Latina, which is about 1hr north of 'downtown' Caserta, by car.
  4. He was married to Catterinangela in Roccaromana, which is about 12 min west of Baia and 1hr north of Caserta by car.
  5. His father was Pasquale Gallucci, and his mother was Maddalena Pascarelle. Catterinangela is from the Di Nocera family.

Not sure if I can link to an ancestry family tree page, but I'll try, because it might make things clearer:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/62399496 ... 2088082424

My question now, is where would you advise I go from here?

[BrownEyedGirl]

Searching,

Thank you for your response on my other thread. This is all interesting and a bit confusing. But that confusion may be because it's 11 p.m. on a Friday night after a full work week. Maybe it will clear up tomorrow when I look at it with fresh eyes. Lol. Anyway . . .

Charlotte was my great grandmother. My mother and aunt, who are alive and well, were extremely close to her. According to family history, Charlotte was born in Caserta, Italy, to Marie and her biological father (Marie Champ-Gallucci's first husband). Marie's first husband passed away in Italy, and she and her children made their way to the States. Charlotte's birth name could have been Collotta (or something similar). Yet, I'm not sure, and I don't have a first name for him. We were told that Charlotte came to America when she was a young child and lived in NYC for a short while before coming to New Castle, Pennsylvania.

I'm curious to learn if my story is correct or if there's something hidden. (Not an "intentiional accident", of course. People commonly remarried quickly following the death of a spouse in those days - especially a man with so many children.)

I'm going to PM you, Searching.

[BrownEyedGirl]

Hello Gallucci Cousin,

I have some additional information on Anthonio Gallucci, my great grandfather.

His first wife (my great grandmother) was Maria Dominica Baschetta (later spelled Bashet). She died in August 1904 when she fell down a flight of steps in her home (ref. New Castle News article), leaving seven small children. Several months later, Antonio Gallucci married his second wife, Maria Ciampa (known later in life as Mary Champ). She died in New Castle in 1936 after bearing him three addition children.

One of those children was Charlotte Gallucci (Scungio). According to her death certificate, she was born in 1903 in Caserta, Italy. Antonio of New Castle, Pa is listed as the father. It should be noted, however, that he was still married to his first wife, Maria Baschetta, at this time. The birth took place a year before her tragic death.

A pregnant Maria Ciampa was apparently sent back to Italy to have Antonio's baby! One can only speculate how this might have contributed to Maria Baschetta’s “accidental” death, but it does explain why he quickly remarried.

Hi Bean,

I'm Charlotte's great granddaughter. Just trying to figure this out. As you can see by my other post on this thread, we were told Anthony was Charlotte's stepfather. Although he's listed as her father on the death certificate, could the reason be because he raised her from a small child if, in fact, her biological father died in Italy?

Also, if Marie was here in the US and became pregnant to Anthony, was it feasible to send her back to Italy to give birth? I'm sure funds were tight and once someone was here, they were *usually* here to stay since travel was not easy . . . Especially on a pregnant woman.

Frankly, I hope I can prove that Anthony was my great great grandfather. That would be another mystery solved. If I could obtain Charlotte's birth certificate, that would help a great deal. I don't know if that's possible though since she was born in Italy.

Any thoughts (or records) you may have are welcome and appreciated. Thank you!