Carbone and Farace & Leone /Tatti

[Tessa78]

Wow I guess we will know for sure if this is the same Carlo if he married Lucia cellone and had daughtes named nunziata and Elisabetta. Also if this Pietro leone married Josephine and gave birth to palmerino we know it's right for sure. You are amazingly kind to help in this way.. Thank you is not enough

Yes
A search for additional records will be difficult... online records appear to only go to 1865...

BTW - Josephine would be Giuseppa or Giuseppina in Italian

T.

[andieh69]

Thanks, I'll keep checking maybe some day more will be online... And maybe I'll know some Italian by then

[Tessa78]

New records are added all the time

I have been searching the records in Opi before 1865 (where I found the Carlo Tatti and Pietro Leone I posted above) and while I have not found Lucia Cellone, the surname Cellone IS found in Opi. However, the surname Antonucci has not shown up in any of the birth indexes so far. I believe Antonucci is found in the Province of L'Aquila, but in other towns.

Did any of the children of these ancestors immigrate?
If yes, could you tell me where and about when?

T.

[andieh69]

Hi yes, the child of Pietro Leone and Josephine Antonucci (Palmerino) did immigrate to Wyoming first and then Chicago. His brother Nunziato also came to Chicago Illinois.

The daughters of Carlo and Lucia came to the states as well. Nunziata Tatti was married to Palmerino Leone and Elisabetta Tatti was married to Ruffino Ferrazza and went to Cleveland Ohio. I got the names of all of these the parents off of their death certificates from Cook County Illinois, but if someone gave the wrong info it could be wrong. I'm not sure if Cellone is even spelled correctly.

[Tessa78]

Thank you for the additional information

I was able to locate an arrival manifest for Elisabetta Tatti Ferrazza and her son, Sabatino Ferrazza. On the line for Sabatino it indicates that he is leaving (in the country from which they came) his grandmother (Elisabetta's mother), Anna Lucia in Opi.

When I searched the births earlier I was looking for Lucia Cellone...
So I went back and looked for Anna Lucia Cellone ---
Found her
Birth Act #16 in 1858
Annalucia Cellone was born 31 March 1858 to
Father: Pietrantonio Cellone, age 50, landowner; and to
Mother: Maria Orsola Comei, age 46, landowner.
The child was presented to the official at the town office by Domenica Mascia, 52, a midwife.
Witnesses to the recording of the birth: Raffaele Tatti, 34, landowner; and Michele Cimini, 33, laborer.
Right column indicates that baptism took place on the same day.
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

AND***
This appears to be Palmerino Leone and his wife Nunziata [Tatti] in the 1930 US Census in Chicago.
Children's name appear to follow the Italian naming tradition of naming first son after paternal grandfather, and daughter after the grandmother.

Palmerino Leone
United States Census, 1930
Name Palmerino Leone
Event Type Census
Event Date 1930
Event Place Chicago (Districts 2627-2876), Cook, Illinois, United States
Gender Male
Age 47
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race (Original) White
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1883
Birthplace Italy
Immigration Year 1910
Father's Birthplace Italy
Mother's Birthplace Italy
Sheet Letter A
Sheet Number 10
Palmerino Leone Head M 47 Italy
Nancy Leone Wife F 40 Italy
Josephine Leone Daughter F 20 Italy
Peter Leone Son M 19 Italy

T.

[andieh69]

Thank you again!!! So is the Raffael Tatti mentioned as a witness to the recording of the birth the same Raffael as Carlo's father?? Also the child traveling with elizabetta named sabatino...would that be Sam in English?? I know my grandfather had a cousin named Sam that was elisabettas son... No luck on Josephine antonucci?? Andrea

[Tessa78]

It is POSSIBLE that the witness Raffaele Tatti on the birth of Annalucia Cellone is Carlo Tatti's father... the age is close enough. HOWEVER, you can not say definitely.

Sabatino could certainly have been americanized to "Sam"

Here is the family in 1920 US Census in Cleveland.
Ruffino's brother, Vincenzo, is also residing with them.

Sabatino Ferrazzo
United States Census, 1920
Name Sabatino Ferrazzo
Event Type Census
Event Year 1920
Event Place Cleveland Ward 19, Cuyahoga, Ohio, United States
Gender Male
Age 7
Marital Status Single
Race White
Race (Original) White
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1913
Birthplace Italy
Immigration Year 1919
Father's Birthplace Italy
Mother's Birthplace Italy
Rufino Ferrazzo Head M 35 Italy
Elisabetta Ferrazzo Wife F 26 Italy
Sabatino Ferrazzo Son M 7 Italy
Vincenzo Ferrazzo Brother M 24 Italy

AND*** looks like the family again in 1930 US Census
On this list Sabatino appears to be listed as Sam
And the second son, Carl, seems to be named after Elisabetta's father, Carlo
However, I do not think he was born in Italy since Elisabetta and Sabatino arrived in 1919 (unless he was born on the ship )
Name Sam Ferrazza
Event Type Census
Event Date 1930
Event Place Cleveland (Districts 251-500), Cuyahoga, Ohio, United States
Gender Male
Age 17
Marital Status Single
Race White
Race (Original) White
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1913
Birthplace Italy
Immigration Year 1922
Father's Birthplace Italy
Mother's Birthplace Italy
Sheet Letter B
Sheet Number 18
Rufane Ferrazza Head M 45 Italy
Isebelle Ferrazza Wife F 37 Italy
Sam Ferrazza Son M 17 Italy
Carl Ferrazza Son M 10 Italy
Emorico Ferrazza Son M 8 Ohio
Dan Ferrazza Son M 4 Ohio
Louis Diywou Lodger M 45 Italy
Pat Vira Lodger M 40 Italy

T.

[andieh69]

I did a little searching for Giuseppe Antonucci and found a bunch of antonuccis living in civitella Alfedena L'aquila and some in civile, ginestra degli schiavoni benevento... And agrigento.. Are these locations anywhere near Opi? What is the likelihood of travel in those days?

[andieh69]

I mean giuseppa

[Tessa78]

Hello Andrea

The Comune of Civitella Alfedena is about 13 km from Opi and the Antonucci surname is found there...
So I decided to search there for a birth for Giuseppa Antonucci

Located a birth act in 1854 for Giuseppa Arcangiola Antonucci (MAY be your Josephine - age is about right)
There were no other Giuseppa Antonucci births in the years 1854 - 1860...

#9
Dated 8 May 1854 - birth on 7 May 1854
Father: Egiddio Antonucci, age 32, laborer
Mother: Anna Santucci, age 36, spinner
Child was given the name Giuseppa Arcangiola Antonucci
Baptism on the 8th.
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

POSSIBLE Marriage of parents of Giuseppa Arcangiola Antonucci in Civitella Alfedena in 1844
Record # 2
Dated 21 August
Groom: Egiddio Antonucci, 31 (either this is incorrect, or the age on the birth record is incorrect ), born in Civitella, a shepherd, residing in the town; son of Francesco Antonucci, surveyor residing in the town; and son of Maria di Fiore, spinner residing in the town.
AND
Bride: Anna Giuseppa Santucci, 27, born and residing in this town; daughter of Francescantonio Santucci, landowner residing in the town; and of Stefanina Spagnoli, spinner residing in the town.
Both sets of parents were there to give consent (which makes me believe that Egiddio was age 21 not 31 )
Banns were posted on 28 July
Documents presented:
1 - birth act of groom
2 - birth act of bride
3 - certificate of notification of banns
Record signed by the groom, his father, the father of the bride and the witnesses and official.
Marriage in the Parish Church of S. Nicola di Bari on 22 August 1844.
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

T.

[andieh69]

That is one I found but I couldn't be sure... Would the marriage to Pietro Leone be online or microfilm based on the possible year it might have happened?
Thank you

[Tessa78]

Online records only available through 1865... so marriage to Pietro not available.

Just posted a possible marriage of parents of Giusppa Antonucci

T.

[andieh69]

Thank you, again for everything!!

[Tessa78]

Thank you, again for everything!!

Always happy to help!

T.

[andieh69]

Ok I have a question. what are the chances that Giuseppa Arcangiola Antonucci is not mine? Is it odd that she was older than her husband? The reason I ask is as soon as I logged it into ancestry.com I got a ton of hints and it was other people's trees with her father and mother listed as well. When I looked at their full trees they had the leone name but none of my relatives...... could this be wrong? Thoughts? By the way I absolutely love the translation of the records, its been great to add to my tree