French Canadian Birth Record

[nuccia]

Hi Joyce,

Emailed you about Rose and Pasquale's marriage date...Dec 16, 1906.

Here's the link to view it

http://www.kindredkonnections.com/cgi-b ... sh+0-0+0+1

In the bottom left hand corner click on the icon that says LDS Family Search Results and you'll see the list. Rose is the second one.

Once again, I'm getting absolutely nothing done tonight! Maybe Edmondo could just crash the database for me for one week! After the withdrawal I should be ok!!

Nuccia

[jcsm400]

Nuccia,

Sent you last email prior to reading above posting.

Dug out the census records for the DiPierros'. Very hard to read, even with a magnifying glass!

1900 PERRIO in Enumeration District 598, sheet# 12B & 13A, Ward #19 (West Town) Chicago, rear 78 Ewing St. Year of Immigration 1887 or 1889 Naturalization Year for Pietro and looks like Anna came in 1890.

1910 DI PIRRO in ED# 840, sheet 12B? Ward #19- Tract 52 (part of), 827 S. Sholto St. (now Carpenter St). Immig.year 1887?. Anna did come in 1890. Naturalization Year

1920 DE PIRO in ED# 628, Ward #10, sheet# 3A, Chicago City, 519 Tayler St. Can't make out either of the years

Hope this helps in locating.

You are a trooper
Many thanks,
jcsm

[nuccia]

Hey Joyce,

I just wanted you to have a look at some of these sites. They mighte be useful in your research in case you haven't seen them before.

http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/Chic ... s_chgo.htm

http://www.lineages.com/Research/lkAlpha.cfm

For the next site, scroll down to passenger lists and choose options. Don't interest people you are looking for in the names search bar or you'll end up on ancestry site which requires payment.

http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/toc ... 1800.shtml

Will keep looking for clues.

Nuccia

[jcsm400]

Here is the additional info for locating the DiPierro census reccords. I hope it helps, need extra pair of eyes for immigration & naturalization year for Pietro.

The 1910 & 1920 records were very hard to find. I figured out ED# by info from 1900 then went page by page, looking 1st by 1st name then checking last name. Never could find thru a search of surname variations nor by 1st name of Pietro, Petro, Peter.

1900 PERRIO, Pietro & family living ED#598, Ward#19 (West Toeen), sheet# 12B & 13A. Address: rear 78 Ewing St.

1910 DI PIRRO, Peter & family living ED#840, Ward#19, Tract 52(part of), sheet# 12B? Address: 827 S. Sholto St. (now Carpenter St.)

1920 DE PERO, Petro & family living ED#628, Ward# Not listed, Cicago City, sheet#3A. Address: 1519 Taylor St

The street name on the 1930 census for Pasquale & Rose Lombardi is Racine.

Nuccia, About the Rose Dipierro birth record you found. Based on the location can you provide possible Catholic Church they may have been members of????? LDS has films for Toronto Churches and maybe I can connect the birth record you sent, if I can find Baptismal record in a church?

Hope your day goes much better than yesterday!

Thanks again for all your help. You are a trooper & a very kind hearted person.

jcsm

[nuccia]

Joyce,

I made so phone calls for you. You need to contact the archives.

Their website is:

www.archtoronto.org/archives

or you can email: archives@archtoronto.org

or phone: 416-934-0606

I hope this helps!

Nuccia

[brujaojos]

Hi There,

This link might also help if he was naturalized in Canada.

http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealo ... 505-e.html

Have a good one
Trish

[jcsm400]

Nuccia,
Thanks for the info. Have emailed the archive for the correct church.

Trish,
Thanks for website. Checked it, but no listing for Dipierro or any variation. I think they went to Canada first because it was easier, so never applied for naturalization in Canada
May come in handy in the future.

jcsm

[nuccia]

Joyce,

The lady I spoke to said you should be able to request the baptismal certificaye from the archives, not the church using the information you now have. I believe because its so old, the churches wouldn't have the records anynore although I did contact a few Churches in the area before I got this info for you.

Let us know what happens with it ok?

Day is only slightly better than yesterday! Thanks for asking!!!

Nuccia

[brujaojos]

Hi There,

I'm looking at each Census record for you. I'll try to break down each one for you. Also, what documents do you have on the family? Such as do you know the wife's maiden name?

I found this manifest.

In the 1900 Census, it lists that Pietro came in 1889, Maria and the son (can't make out his name) came in 1890. Also, it states that Pietro was already Naturalized. I would try to send for his naturualization records in Illinois.

Also, if you look at this census, only Rosie was born in Canada in March 1890, therefore, the family was already here in the "America's" prior to this date, and was laready in Illinois by 1893 which would give him plenty of time to get Naturalized in Illinois.

Name: Pietro Parri
Home in 1900: Chicago Ward 19, Cook, Illinois
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: 1858
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Immigration year: 1889
Image source: Year: 1900; Census Place: Chicago Ward 19, Cook, Illinois; Roll: T623 269; Page: 12B; Enumeration District: 598.



This is the information on the 1920 Census, per this census, it already states he was naturalized. It looks like 1893, but I can't make it out for sure. Also, the wife is deceased. Do you have her Death Certificate? It might have clues on it.

Name: Petro De Pero
[Petro Depero]
Age: 62 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 10, Cook (Chicago), Illinois
Home owned: Own
Sex: Male
Marital status: Widow
Relation to Head of House: Head
Year of immigration: 1883
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Image Source: Year: 1920; Census Place: Chicago Ward 10, Cook (Chicago), Illinois; Roll: T625_319; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 628; Image: 85.


This is from Castle Garden. This is only possibilities.

Name, Date of Arrival, Birth Year, Port of Departure, Last Residence, Name of Ship
Pietro Depierro 16 Mar 1885 abt 1855 Male Le Havre, France Italy Normandie

Pietro Paolo Dipiero 9 Feb 1887 abt 1853 Male Palermo, Italy Lalun,Italy Gottardo

I have the 1900 and the 1920 census if you need them. I cannot find the 1910 or 1930 census.

I would try to send for naturalization records in Illinois.
I hope this helps
Trish

[nuccia]

Hi Trish,

I'm so glad you're back! Haven't heard from you and we missed you.

Just to recap for you...

Pietro's wife's maiden name was Bifano, Anna Maria. Here's the link for the birth of Rosa from ancestry..

http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx= ... id=1058277

Joyce, Trish is a true professional and the advise she gives you combined with the information you already have should give you results. I would follow her advise..you won't get better.

Nuccia

[jcsm400]

Hi Trish,

[quote="brujaojos"]

Also, what documents do you have on the family? Such as do you know the wife's maiden name? >
I have birth records for Pietro Vincenzo DiPierro & Anna Maria (Bifano) from Armento, Italy, so have traced both lines there. Death certificate for Pietro DePierro. Also, birth records for their children Mary & Michael (Michele) born in Chicago. And possibly the birth record for Rose born in Canada sent by Nuccia. The 1900 census record shows them married for 17 years. Unforunately, many Armento civil records are water damaged and 1880-1887 are not on the film, so I believe they were unreadable & not filmed, so no marriage record. Wrote priest for in three years ago, no reply. Have new letter typed and ready to go, just waiting for PO to get more International reply coupons

I found this manifest. >What manifest?

In the 1900 Census, it lists that Pietro came in 1889, Maria and the son (can't make out his name) came in 1890. Also, it states that Pietro was already Naturalized. I would try to send for his naturualization records in Illinois. > Have tried with approximate date since I couldn't read the year, so I'll try again with the year as 1893 as stated below. Glad you have a good pair of eyes

Also, if you look at this census, only Rosie was born in Canada in March 1890, therefore, the family was already here in the "America's" prior to this date, and was laready in Illinois by 1893 which would give him plenty of time to get Naturalized in Illinois.> Question: Wasn't there a waiting period of 5 years before filing for naturalization or was that earlier?

Name: Pietro Parri
Home in 1900: Chicago Ward 19, Cook, Illinois
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: 1858
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Immigration year: 1889
Image source: Year: 1900; Census Place: Chicago Ward 19, Cook, Illinois; Roll: T623 269; Page: 12B; Enumeration District: 598.



This is the information on the 1920 Census, per this census, it already states he was naturalized. It looks like 1893, but I can't make it out for sure. Also, the wife is deceased. Do you have her Death Certificate? It might have clues on it. > I have another post on forum "Chicago Researcher Help" or something like that. Cook County can't find it

Name: Petro De Pero
[Petro Depero]
Age: 62 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 10, Cook (Chicago), Illinois
Home owned: Own
Sex: Male
Marital status: Widow
Relation to Head of House: Head
Year of immigration: 1883
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Image Source: Year: 1920; Census Place: Chicago Ward 10, Cook (Chicago), Illinois; Roll: T625_319; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 628; Image: 85.


This is from Castle Garden. This is only possibilities.

Name, Date of Arrival, Birth Year, Port of Departure, Last Residence, Name of Ship
Pietro Depierro 16 Mar 1885 abt 1855 Male Le Havre, France Italy Normandie

Pietro Paolo Dipiero 9 Feb 1887 abt 1853 Male Palermo, Italy Lalun,Italy Gottardo > Should we be looking for a ship from Canada
I have the 1900 and the 1920 census if you need them. I cannot find the 1910 or 1930 census. > The 1920 was the hardest to find!


Helps & I really appreciate you & everybody else for all the help.

God bless you all.

jcsm

[mfjp]

Hi Guys... you are all amazing...

Miss you all...

Did you want this linked?

Pietro 1885 manifest

This is from Castle Garden. This is only possibilities.

Name, Date of Arrival, Birth Year, Port of Departure, Last Residence, Name of Ship
Pietro Depierro 16 Mar 1885 abt 1855 Male Le Havre, France Italy Normandie

My Great grandfather boarded on 2 boats to get to Canada... (through Ellis and Boston Harbour) and then took the train from what I understand... to Western Canada....

maria

[nuccia]

Joyce,

A manifest is the passenger list that people travelled over to the US and Canada with. Maria has offerred to link the manifest listed above which I think could be useful. She a pro at manifests and I still can't use imageshack!!

Maria, missed you sooooo much!! I got pretty lucky with Rosa's birth information (if it's the correct one which I believe it is) but wished you were here to help link it. Could you link it using imageshack on this post so everyone could view. It's listed on ancestry under DiPierro..Canadian births. You know what to do....

Hugs!
Nuccia

[mfjp]

Hi Nuccia...

Just tell me where I can find her record and I will link it for you... hope it's thru Ancestry... (further edit... yes... it is thru Ancestry... give me a couple of minutes...)

Really look forward to this weekend... as I did last weekend... but as my luck would have it... the forum was in pretty bad shape...

Dinner... on me... just say when!!

Maria

Pietro would be on line 22 of the record... See my previous post...

[brujaojos]

Hi Maria and Nuccia!!!

: )

I missed you guys too!!! Sorry I haven't been around. I've been translating Polish Jewish Birth Records and I needed something more relaxing, so here I am.

I just wanted to wave hello.

And thank you Nuccia for the compliment.

hugs
Trish