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Re: Help with the Diorio name.

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Diorio/Di Iorio/D'Iorio

Vincent Diorio
21 Mar 1921 SS Duca Degli Abruzzi, Napoli to NY
1921 manifest
page 2
Line 24

Vincenzo Iorio 21
Stamped notation: CL USC with numbers 448173 1/9/29 CEL
Written notation: Claims US Born

- single
- tailor
- in US 1899/1900
- joining uncle Carminantonio Porrazzo at 400 E 11th St, New York
- born in NY
- last residence P. Fusi (Pietradefusi, Avellino, Campania)
- in P. Fusi, mother Teresa
- destination New York, NY

possible mother Teresa's last name is also Porrazzo?

edit: added
this manifest is on the Ellis Island site indexed under 'Lorio'
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Missing Diorio 1900 census, a theory

The Diorio family may not have been in the US
when the 1900 census was taken.
The census lasted about one month starting on
June 1, 1900.
Note on the 1900 census that suanj found,
the only Porrazzo family members that were
enumerated were Louise (DeMarinis) and
her father Tony (Carmine Antonio) Porrazzo.
It’s possible that the D’Iorio family and Maria
(Addonizio) Porrazzo traveled back to Italy
together.
(probably to Pietradefusi, Avellino)
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Nice work Valerie!

Ok, so it seems Suanj may be correct in her deduction that the family is from Avellino. And it also seems that the name may in fact been Iorio.

Giovanni will be pleased I'm sure! :D
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nuccia wrote:Don't assume..its all speculation at this point. :lol:



Who knows what the name was changed to! I only posted it to show you the options. You still need to collect all records to confirm..

Get your letter written.
Good advice.

So collecting all of the records may give me more info than what the online stuff says?

If so, fantastic.

Yeah, I guess there's no way of knowing whether the record takers and keepers butchered the names, or whether the people themselves changed them.

I guess I just need to figure out which records would be the most accurate.

Right?
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So collecting all of the records may give me more info than what the online stuff says?
Yes, it could. But I guess you haven't seen what vj's found yet, have you? It looks like it very well could be your Vincenzo.
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vj wrote:Diorio/Di Iorio/D'Iorio

Vincent Diorio
21 Mar 1921 SS Duca Degli Abruzzi, Napoli to NY
1921 manifest
page 2
Line 24

Vincenzo Iorio 21
Stamped notation: CL USC with numbers 448173 1/9/29 CEL
Written notation: Claims US Born

- single
- tailor
- in US 1899/1900
- joining uncle Carminantonio Porrazzo at 400 E 11th St, New York
- born in NY
- last residence P. Fusi (Pietradefusi, Avellino, Campania)
- in P. Fusi, mother Teresa
- destination New York, NY

possible mother Teresa's last name is also Porrazzo?

edit: added
this manifest is on the Ellis Island site indexed under 'Lorio'
His mother's name is Teresa Generazzo. Remember that the info that I have is from family records, in the form of a family tree. Of course, the Diorio name may have been Diorio or Di Iorio, but I think Generazzo is accurate, as Vincenzo/Vincent's mother's maiden name.
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vj wrote:Diorio/Di Iorio/D'Iorio

Vincent Diorio
21 Mar 1921 SS Duca Degli Abruzzi, Napoli to NY
1921 manifest
page 2
Line 24

Vincenzo Iorio 21
Stamped notation: CL USC with numbers 448173 1/9/29 CEL
Written notation: Claims US Born

- single
- tailor
- in US 1899/1900
- joining uncle Carminantonio Porrazzo at 400 E 11th St, New York
- born in NY
- last residence P. Fusi (Pietradefusi, Avellino, Campania)
- in P. Fusi, mother Teresa
- destination New York, NY

possible mother Teresa's last name is also Porrazzo?

edit: added
this manifest is on the Ellis Island site indexed under 'Lorio'
Nonetheless, the Porrazzo connection shown here should mean that this is my Grandfather... whether the family name (Iorio) is accurate or not. No?
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I think the manifest is an accurate one Giovanni.

This Carmen was also from Campanarello Avellino according to the passport records online and his father was Ottavio. He was married to a Maria Addorizio.

Am sending you a PM.
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nuccia wrote:Thanks suanj!

Well, I guess you have a decision to make Giovanni. I would take a chance and write to the address suanj gave you and see what happens. At worst, you will get a negative answer.

I guess its up to you now.

Hugs!
In Venticano civil records office, Giovanni can find only the birth record of Teresa Generazzo giving the probable birthyear as in the ship's manifest( if is the correct Teresa as we think), I don't know if also Carmine came from Venticano, but also is probable, kisses, suanj
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I just found a manifest from 1892 with both an "Angelo Diorio" (28 years) and a "Giuseppe D"Iorio" (22 years)... There isn't a page 2 on this manifest, so I can't get the other info.

Since Vincenzo (my Grandfather) was born in 1899, it ties in for either of these guys being "Carmine Giuseppe Angelo Diorio", no?

~Giovanni
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suanj wrote:well, maybe this is your VINCENZO DI IORIO born the 1/1/1899 in New York in a trip back in USA:
trip of 1925 > October > 25 > Conte Rosso
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4898/vincenzohy6.jpg
in travel with Teresa DE MARINIS born in New York 10 sept 1902 and with Maria PARRAZZO age 71, I believe mother of Teresa... as you can read the right italian spelling of surname is DI IORIO
One thing I just realized about this.

This means that my father was concieved in Italia. Teresa was pregnant with my father during the voyage. My father was born on July 10th, 1926.

WOW. I certainly didn't know that!

How many times can I say thank you?
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I have ordered the marriage certificate from NYC for Vincent Diorio and Teresa DeMarinis.

Thanks to Raffaella, it was easy. ; ) Next is finding Vincent's birth record...

Hopefully between the two, there will be info about Vincent's parents, or at least how their names were recorded.

Ciao!
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Great! Keep us posted. :D
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UPDATE:

I found another manifest entry for Vincenzo Di Iorio, which says March of 1924, port of origin=Napoli.

The manifest only seems to have the 2nd page, so it's hard to tell which one is him without the name.

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0311%2ETIF
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Did you try using the next and previous page icons? Heres the first page of that manifest..

Page 1


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