Searching for my Great Grandmother's roots

[Bivalacqua]

Just a thought: The 1900 census records say Rosario imm in 1877 but the 1910 census says 1860. Could he have came here in 1860 and been naturalized in 1877? And also Mary's imm date on the 1910 census has a date I cannot make out but her obit says she was here for 61 yrs at death and she was 65 so she could have possibly came here around ?1857? (she died in 1918). I was just trying to figure out a way for the dates to add up, not sure if its correct.

[vj]

... If possible can the obit for Salvadore Bivalacqua be found anywhere? He passed awy around 1946 age 58 i believe. He was also from New Orleans and was married to Jennie Michel bivalacqua

obituary
http://a.imageshack.us/img718/6746/salv ... lacqua.jpg
Date: 1946-02-06;
Paper: Times-Picayune

also posted on your original post for Bivalacqua
http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... art=0.html

[vj]

Just a thought: The 1900 census records say Rosario imm in 1877 but the 1910 census says 1860. Could he have came here in 1860 and been naturalized in 1877? And also Mary's imm date on the 1910 census has a date I cannot make out but her obit says she was here for 61 yrs at death and she was 65 so she could have possibly came here around ?1857? (she died in 1918). I was just trying to figure out a way for the dates to add up, not sure if its correct.

You may have to find daughters Mary's (1868?) and Anna's (1872?) birth records in LA? to narrow down possible immigration years for Giovanna

[Bivalacqua]

Thanks so much for your info and your great help! I have searched New orleans birth records but havent found anything on either girls, maybe a different parish possibly. Ill try to find info on other parishes!

[suanj]

I know not if can be interesting; here the marriage record( apr 1883) abt Anna Michel and Salvatore Michel; the surnames are spelled MICHELE

1883 4
Michele , Anna
Michele , Salvatore Orleans
Order Page: 912 Volume: 9
[hr]
Name: Anna Michele
Spouse: Salvatore Michele
Age: 15
Age: 21
Gender: F
Marriage Date: 21 Apr 1883
Volume: 9
Page: 912

suanj

[vj]

I know not if can be interesting; here the marriage record( apr 1883) abt Anna Michel and Salvatore Michel; the surnames are spelled MICHELE

1883 4
Michele , Anna
Michele , Salvatore Orleans
Order Page: 912 Volume: 9
[hr]
Name: Anna Michele
Spouse: Salvatore Michele
Age: 15
Age: 21
Gender: F
Marriage Date: 21 Apr 1883
Volume: 9
Page: 912

suanj

Great find suanj!
Marriage in Orleans Parish
This record should have another spelling of her mother's surname
Perhaps Salvatore was a distant cousin
Valarie

...
Obituary
Anna (1868-1960)
http://a.imageshack.us/img831/9245/annamichel.jpg
Date: 26 Apr 1960
Paper: Times-Picayune
...

[suanj]

Thanks Valarie, me too think that Salvatore was a cousin...
in 1930 Salvatore birthplace is Italy, arrival 1872, NA:
1930 United States Federal Census
about Salvador Michel
Name: Salvador Michel
Home in 1930: New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana
View Map
Age: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Annie
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Salvador Michel 68
Annie Michel 60


in 1920:

1920 United States Federal Census
about Salvador Michel
Name: Salvador Michel
Home in 1920: New Orleans Ward 7, Orleans, Louisiana
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Anna
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Salvador Michel 58
Anna Michel 56
Samuel Michel 17
Joseph Michel 15
Louis J Lee 24
Lena Lee 24
Angentine L Lee 4
Louis L Lee 11/12
unknown immigration year...

in 1900 the birthplace is : Louisiana(??)

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1900 United States Federal Census
about Salvador Michel
Name: Salvador Michel
Home in 1900: New Orleans Ward 6, Orleans, Louisiana
Age: 38
Birth Date: Mar 1862
Birthplace: Louisiana
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Louisiana
Mother's Birthplace: Louisiana
Spouse's name: Annie
Marriage Year: 1883
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 17
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Salvador Michel 38
Annie Michel 32
Rose Michel 15
John Michel 13
Mary Michel 11
Francis Michel 9
Josephine Michel 7
Nina Michel 5
Jennie Michel 2
Cometta Michel 1
Joseph Muschman 22


I believe that finding Salvatore arrival, and if it are the birthplace, Rosario and Maria coming from same area... the problem is that i cannot find the arrivals...
hugs,
suanj

[Bivalacqua]

Thanks a bunch I have been searching the internet and looking for ANYTHING I can find lol. I know Mary and Rosario had a daughter names Anna. Is this the Anna here? The same as the obit?

[suanj]

Nina daughter must be Anna; Nina is the diminutive of Anna
( Anna>Annina>Nina)

[suanj]

if someone with better eyes can read the address in New Orleans abt this ship's manifest:

New Orleans Passenger Lists, 1820-1945
about Salvatore Pino
Name: Salvatore Pino
Arrival Date: 13 Oct 1908
Age: 47
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Palermo, Italy
Ship Name: Liguria
Port of Arrival: New Orleans, Louisiana
Friend's Name: Basario Michelle (Rosario Di Michelle-Di Miceli)
Last Residence: Sicily
Birthplace: Sicily,Talcone (Falcone)
National Archives' Series Number: T905

pag 1 http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9828/pino1.jpg
pag 2 http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/1486/pino2.jpg

the address of Rosario Di Michelle-Di Miceli in New Orleans... it could be near Rosario Michel home in 1910 census??
Thanks,
suanj

[vj]

Hello suanj
Neat manifest!

My best guess:
Brother in law Rosario D Miceli (corrected to Michelle)
235 French Market (Place) N O

Rosario was at 808 Frenchmen Street in 1910 - same neighborhood
Valarie

[suanj]

Thank you Valarie,
hugs,
suanj

[Bivalacqua]

So do you think it possible that Salvadore and Rosario are from the same place? And it doesnt say that Sal traveled with his wife or was married. Could he have left her in Italy when he came? Just trying to see how they were brother in laws.

[Bivalacqua]

I was searchng on ancestry.com (im not a member) I found what could possibly be a manifest for Anna Michel for 12/1/1866 and a 1930 cenus. I also may have ound census records for both mary and August. I also noticed the searches usually pulled up a member's family tree with the same relatives as I was looking for. im not sure if anyone who is subscribed to the website can help but it would be greatly appreciated. I dont know if the links will bring you to the same searches I found but Ill try to post them anyways.
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse. ... te=2&cp=12

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http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse. ... te=2&cp=12

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse. ... te=2&cp=12

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse. ... te=2&cp=12

[suanj]

Hi Bivalacqua the links no working..
I cannot find the 1880 census abt your Rosario .. now, because by obits and WWI draft registration cards seeming that all Rosario children was born in Louisiana, and if so Rosario and Maria was resident in Louisiana almost from 1871/2 (first daughter Mary born abt 1872), but because I cannot find the birth records .. I cannot understand why the family appearing not in 1880 census....
The Miciottos* coming from Cefalù town and I suspect that also your ancestors coming from this town or surrounding area....
suanj
marriages
* 6 aug 1908
MICHEL, JOSEPHINE
MICIOTTO, DIEGO
Orleans
Order Page: 409 Volume: 30

1894 4
Michele , Marie
Michiotte , Guiseppe
Orleans
Order Page: 493 Volume: 17