I am trying to gain some clarity from old posts regarding my family, I have attempted to contact the original poster, but have not had any luck.
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I am confused about this death record above, when compared to the one below:
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Both are Giovanna Sgroi, born to Giacomo Sgroi and either Pasqua Orlando or Anna Orlando, both Giovanna' died in 1890, but one was age 5 and the other age 70???/ How can both parents have a child that is 5 years and 70 years old? Something is not right with these
These were posts under Translations from August 2015 and they don’t make sense to me Can someone clarify? Are there 2 different Giacomo Sgroi’ and Pasqua/Anna Orlandos?
Also based on another post regarding the name changes made to Giacomo Sgroi to Sgro, they only list one Giovanna, and claridy Anna’ name:
• The record for the amendment makes no mention of the mother's given name. I wonder what it is on the birth records of their first 3 children. So far we know:
She married in 1873 as Pasqua Filarmonica.
On birth record of child Cesare born in 1874, she is __ Armenia, with unknown (to us) given name.
On birth record of child Giuseppe born in 1878, she is __ Orlando, with unknown (to us) given name.
On birth record of child Vincenza born in 1881, she is __ Orlando, with unknown (to us) given name.
On birth record of child Providenza born in 1889, she is Anna Orlando.
On death record of child Giovanna (age 5) from 1889, she is Pasqua Orlando.
It's funny that Pasqua's name was not amended on Giovanna's 1884 birth record. Maybe it was already correct there.
So you can look at the mother's name on Cesare's, Vincenza's, Giuseppe's, and Giovanna's birth records. So far I see Anna only on Providenza's birth record.
As for the 1890 death record for Giovann Sgroi, age 70, maybe there was an older couple Giacomo Sgroi and Anna Orlando who lived in the early 19th c. That Giacomo Sgroi might even have been the grandfather of the Giacomo Sgro' who married Pasqua Filarmonica. Could Pasqua's name have appeared as Anna on at least one record because somene was confusing her with her husband's grandmother? That seems farfetched.
• Providenza Birth dec 1 1889 Lists Orlando, Pasqua age 40 I think
Giacoma Birth Nov 9 1886 Lists Orlando, Pasqua age 36
Giovanna Death Oct 4 1890 List Orlando Pasqua child is 5
Filippo Death Dec 14 1885 List list Orlando Pasqua age 1yr 8mt
Translation help from old posts
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Your links are not working. Can you post the link to the original thread?
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These are two different Giovannas, of course.Both are Giovanna Sgroi, born to Giacomo Sgroi and either Pasqua Orlando or Anna Orlando, both Giovanna' died in 1890, but one was age 5 and the other age 70???/ How can both parents have a child that is 5 years and 70 years old? Something is not right with these
Mother's are different - Pasqua and Anna.
As to Giacomo as father...due to naming traditions, you would find many in the town with the same name.
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I thought the Orlando name was given to illegitimate or orphaned children? And it was a name given arbitrarily?
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That may be so, but Pasqua and Anna are two different given namespoliquie wrote: 27 Mar 2018, 12:08 I thought the Orlando name was given to illegitimate or orphaned children? And it was a name given arbitrarily?
And it is possible that either Pasqua or Anna is NOT a foundling, but rather the daughter or granddaughter of a male who was a foundling who was given the surname in an earlier generation.
As you stated, the age difference for the two deceased Giovanna makes it improbable that they shared the same parents.
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