matrimony record for Filomena Migliarese

[carolc]

Hi
I suspect that this is the second marriage for Filomena Migliarese, not sure if it mentions that she was already widowed when she married Felice but perhaps you can confirm this. Also, what other personal info is mentioned in this record for Filomena and Felice. I can read their ages but after his age there is another word I don't recognize. Any other information you can share would be appreciated.


http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0

[Tessa78]

The record does not mention that Filomena is a widow...

However here is the link to the marriage allegati which contains copies of both groom and bride birth acts, publication of bands, etc.
Also included is the extract of the death act of her first husband, Stanislao de Luca.

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 1.jpg.html

Death act of first husband
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0

The word after Felice's age is "bettoliere" - tavern keeper
And he is also a widower and his parents are unknown.

Filomena is the daughter of deceased Giuseppe and of deceased Maria Conte.

T.

[carolc]

This is wonderful. I didn't even think to look for allegati. Gotta get into that habit. Thank you for this.

Carol

[carolc]

Hello

I was just looking over these records again and would like to get confirmation....that based on these documents Filomena married her second spouse Felice Spagnuolo in the same year (1903) that her first spouse, Stanislao de Luca died? Or is it possible she and Stanislao were no longer married when he died?

[erudita74]

Carol
Stanislao died June 3, 1886-top of 2nd page of death record posted by T.

Erudita

[carolc]

I was confused. The top of the first page has the year 1903 so I thought this was his death certificate and that he died in 1903. If you don't mind, what an "extract" as noted above and what does it say?

[erudita74]

I was confused. The top of the first page has the year 1903 so I thought this was his death certificate and that he died in 1903. If you don't mind, what an "extract" as noted above and what does it say?

The 1903 date is when the official in the town of Grottaminarda received an extracted copy of Stanislao's death record from the official in Naples, where he had died in 1886. An extracted copy is not the original record, but rather a record that created for an event such as a marriage or, in this case, a remarriage. So any records that the prospective groom and bride present as supporting materials for an upcoming marriage are extracted copies of the originals, but which conform to the originals in every way. So, the baptism or birth records the couple needed to present were not originals, but records that were created from the originals-so a priest, for example, would look in his book of baptisms and create a new record, or extract, including all of the info that appeared in the original record. The same would be the case for death acts of former spouses, parents who had died, etc.

In the copy of Stanislao's death record extract from Naples, he was said to have been a musician, age 26, and the son of Giuseppe (De Luca) and Maria Giuseppa Falcucci (this info is in the last two lines of page 1 of the extract). The record was #151, Part II, of the death register for 1886 of the district/quarter of Avvocata (a neighborhood in the city of Naples).

[carolc]

Thank you so much for your help. It means a great deal to me that everyone on this site is so kind and giving of their time to help us with translations and other needs.

[erudita74]

Happy to have helped, Carol. I also checked to see if the original death record was online but, unfortunately, the records for Avvocata Naples are only available up to 1865.

I also forgot to point out that sometimes there are mistakes in extracted records, although they are stated to conform to the originals. Sometimes there have simply been human error(s) in copying from an original, and I recall one instance in which there were two individuals in a town, with the same first and last names, who died within a day or two of each other, and the wrong extracted death record appeared with a marriage package. Since the groom and bride were often illiterate, and the copy had been sent from one town official to another, the mistake was not caught.

Erudita

[carolc]

Thank you Erudita.