Marriage in Pennsylvania

[cedrone]

Thank you for the info.
The Luigi you found has another surname, FAVERO. The family I am studying is FAVERIO; it's a rare surname and until now I suppose there is only one Faverio family.

I'll try to seach in the library website.

[suanj]

well the Luigi FAVERIO that you are searching for arrived in USA on 7 Nov 1906, La Bretagne ship, 24 old, miner, married, coming from Bulgorello , a hamlet of Cadorago town, Como, IT
https://heritage.statueofliberty.org/sh ... cGciOw==/1

and in USA the his birthdate was the 7 sep 1885
https://i.postimg.cc/J47mTRfp/PA-2240136-2684.jpg

but really he was born on 7 Sep 1881 #11 in Bulgorello, son of Francesco 28 old, mason and of Carolina (or Geraldina sorry no much readable) Cairoli daughter of Giovanni

https://i.postimg.cc/FKb9kHdm/vbmdita18 ... 3-0977.jpg

Luigi Faverio married in Bulgorello on 26 jan 1903 to Maria Teresa Grisoni 20 old, also born in Bulgorello

https://i.postimg.cc/25C5wWf3/vbmdita18 ... 3-2001.jpg
I no found Maria Teresa Grisoni arrival... I am pretty sure that the find is correct, and probablu or he left Maria Teresa, and joined to Raffaela or he was widow on 1911...
However I believe mu find is right..
best regards,
suanj

[suanj]

Husband:
Louis F. FAVERIO
immigration 1906 or 1909 (from the censuses),
born 8 Sep. 1885 (from USSS Death Index) (source of this date?)
_____
Wife:
Raffaela POLANDO,
also indicated as Josephine POLANDO, [and in the Census with the married name Faverio, also on the grave: RAFFAELA FAVERIO]
Immigration (from the census) 1899 or 1902.
born 14 Oct. 1894 (from the death certificate)
MARRIAGE (from the census) 1911

Naturalization between 1920 and 1930
Residence in 1920 Menallen
in 1930 Redstone.
_____________________
The descendants of the POLANDO family identified her with a RAFFAELA PARLÀ, arrived with her parents at Ellis Island on 5 June 1903; the family should have changed surname into POLANDO.
I found her birth act in Italy showing the date 12 Nov. 1894 in Nusco, Avellino.
______
Thank you very much for any suggestion.

I found him. Bulgorello, Como. Born 8 Sept 1882. Link: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043815

Ship manifest to USA here: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/co ... 4010792471

uh Mark sorry I no read you already found him!

[suanj]

well the Luigi FAVERIO that you are searching for arrived in USA on 7 Nov 1906, La Bretagne ship, 24 old, miner, married, coming from Bulgorello , a hamlet of Cadorago town, Como, IT
https://heritage.statueofliberty.org/sh ... cGciOw==/1

and in USA the his birthdate was the 7 sep 1885
https://i.postimg.cc/J47mTRfp/PA-2240136-2684.jpg

but really he was born on 7 Sep 1882 #11 in Bulgorello, son of Francesco 28 old, mason and of Carolina (or Geraldina sorry no much readable) Cairoli daughter of Giovanni

https://i.postimg.cc/FKb9kHdm/vbmdita18 ... 3-0977.jpg

Luigi Faverio married in Bulgorello on 26 jan 1903 to Maria Teresa Grisoni 20 old, also born in Bulgorello

https://i.postimg.cc/25C5wWf3/vbmdita18 ... 3-2001.jpg
I no found Maria Teresa Grisoni arrival... I am pretty sure that the find is correct, and probablu or he left Maria Teresa, and joined to Raffaela or he was widow on 1911...
However I believe my find is right..
best regards,
suanj

Mark already found him, so sorry, my duplicate effort no necessary, however no doubts that is the right person and he was married..
suanj

[suanj]

I believe that Raffaela Parla never married to Luigi Faverio, just joined. On her birth record are a document by judge order to change her first name from Raffaele, male, in Raffaela female, because the Registrar made a error at time of birth registration. The judge order have the date of 1915. so no doubts that pertaining the right Raffaela Parla/Parlà.
Well on 3 March 1915 Taormina ship, Raffaela Parla came back in USA, with her son Ernesto COCCARO US citizen, 3 old, going from her husband Biagio COCCARO in Waltersburg, PA, if I read well
https://heritage.statueofliberty.org/sh ... cGciOw==/1

https://heritage.statueofliberty.org/sh ... cGciOw==/1

Biagio Coccaro was born in Cicerale and immigrated on 31 may 1906, going in Uniontown, PA, 19 old.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... 3AJFZ3-PZL

Well and here the evidence that Raffaela Parla married to Biagio Coccaro was your Raffaela partner of Luigi Faverio, here the image of the birth of Ernesto Coccaro, by PA archive

https://i.postimg.cc/YSTQ5YVH/coccaro-ernesto.png




So on 1915, year of her last trip in Italy, she was married, but then some thing happened. Both was married with other person.... Luigi Faverio with Maria Teresa Grisoni and Raffaela Parlà with Biagio Coccaro..
and Ernest Faverio was really Ernest Coccaro...
suanj

[MarcuccioV]

Mark already found him, so sorry, my duplicate effort no necessary, however no doubts that is the right person and he was married..
suanj

Thank you for clearing up the details, suanj. I was pretty sure that this was the correct person...

[suanj]

Ernest Coccaro aka Ernest Faviero birth record


https://i.postimg.cc/05dgh546/48840-302 ... -03370.jpg
suanj

[suanj]

Raffaela Parlà married Biagio Coccaro was pregnant on the trip of 1915 and desembarked on 3 Mar 1915, on 29 March 1915 George Coccaro born.. so also George was the son of Biagio and not of Luigi Faverio

https://i.postimg.cc/L8HNhLmS/coccaro-george.png

suanj

[suanj]

Finally the mother of all evidences!

Biagio Coccaro was born in Cicerale, Salerno, IT on 7 aug 1886, son of Rosario Coccaro and of Gesualda Mollo.
Well: on 16 May 1919 #2 Gesualda Mollo goes in Civil records office of Cicerale and gives the marriage certificate, abt the wedding performed in Uniontown, Fayette Pennsylvania, marriage license number 26429 of 20 Feb 1913, Biagio 26 old and Raffaela Pallante aged 18 born in Nusco, Avellino IT, daughter of Gennaro and of Caterina, both the spouses residing in Waltersburg, Fayette, PA, USA
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... at=1340154
suanj

[darkerhorse]

Cedrone, this topic is very difficult to follow for the casual reader.

Are you satisfied that your Luigi Faverio has been found? If so, which one is he?

[suanj]

It is a no rare love story .... between two married persons....

[suanj]

Resume:
No absolutely not, here it is not a question of whether if a casual reader understands or not, if not an expert he can always learn by reading, but here it is a question of discovering the truth.
A Pennsylvania marriage record, very hard to find?
Maybe it never existed, and if so, why did the couple ever get married?
A person of Italian descent does not think exactly like an Italian person. Because the former lacks that necessary culture of social customs, ways of thinking, obedience to the state and the church that today have changed a little in Italy and probably disappeared soon after emigration, among Italians to the USA, because they adapted to a modern state and its liberal way of thinking.
We have a Luigi Faverio who immigrated to the USA. His date of birth declared at various stages of his life in America does not match his age on the date of immigration.
Found who he was, born in Bulgorello,and that he was born on the same day and month but three years earlier, it turns out that he was married in Italy.
Final destination: California.
There is no evidence that his Italian wife followed him to the US. I didn't investigate his fate, I focused on Luigi Faverio.
I read that it was looking for the surname Favero as a possible person. Faverio is not Favero. As I said before, there is very often little attention for vowels which in the Italian language are very important. So established that Faverio looks the same as Favero but he is not.
The author of the topic says that he was married to Raffaela Polando, or various versions of a similar surname and that originally his Italian surname, true, was Parlà.
Polando, Pilanto or various spellings do not exist, they exist only in the USA, the Italian surname they really wanted to use was Pallante which is a real Italian surname. If we then think that many were illiterate and that they pronounced the surname in Italian and transcribed it in English, the distortion of the surname was inevitable.
Well, the same person that is Raffaela Pallante / Parlà was married in Pennsylvania. If one took pains to read her birth record a little more thoroughly, one would also read the sentence of the judge in which he ordered the rectification of the first name and gender. Male to female. This in 1915. Clearly if he t male he was called for military service and by failing to show up he was judged a deserter. And on 1915 Raffaela was 21 old, just in time.
So we can say based on the documents that the family was definitely formed by Biagio Coccaro and Raffaela / Pallante / Talk to Ernesto and George until 1915. Then another child was born in 1919, named Orlando, but I don't know if he was the son of Biagio or already Luigi. The dates of birth of the first two children correspond. I don't know what happened to Biagio Coccaro, but since 1920 Luigi had surely taken his place.

Perhaps it makes sense that there have been these cases, but in Italy I remember that they remained alone women, some received money from their emigrated husbands, others were abandoned. They called them the "white widows". I remember some of them were always very sad and silent. Not only of those whose husbands went to the USA, but I remember those whose husbands went to work in Germany, Belgium, France, UK, Switzerland, Australia...


So if they got married, you should rather look for no in 1911 and not in 1914, but a few years later.
suanj

[cedrone]

Salve Suanj.
Grazie infinite per la tua ricerca, in particolare sulla famiglia Coccaro, il matrimonio di Raffaela Pallante era già stato trovato, ma è la stessa persona? Come si spiega il cambiamento di cognome, era Parlà nell'atto di nascita, l'atto di matrimonio trascritto è appunto una trascrizione del documento americano con il cognome Pallante.
Come hai trovato i viaggi di rientro in Italia?
Poi sarebbe tornata negli Stati Uniti vivendo con Louis Faverio con il nuovo cognome Polando e non sposati. Può essere successo a quei tempi? Nei censimenti sembrerebbe la moglie di Louis, ne ha assunto il cognome fino alla lapide sulla tomba.

Quanto al Luigi di Bulgorello non so perché non avevo trovato il matrimonio, comunque è arrivato a New York, indicato come sposato e diretto a Napa, California, dove aveva parenti.

[cedrone]

Quando avevo completato questa parte della famiglia non avevo trovato nessun Luigi, può essere che fosse andato a Uniontown, ma non può essere sicuro. Proverò a chiedere agli attuali discendenti se hanno qualche ricordo di un Luigi/Louis arrivato a Napa.
Inoltre nel manifesto della nave era indicato come cieco da un occhio,
ciò non appare nella Draft Card degli USA.

Rimarrebbe da trovare che fine ha fatto la moglie di Luigi, arrivata negli USA, rimasta in Italia?
Esaminerò poi tutti i documenti della coppia Pallante /Coccaro, si potrà completare questa parte dell'albero.
Grazie ancora.

[cedrone]

darkerhorse:
The documents found by suanj are concerning Raffaella, do you think possible that they were not married at that time? How should they be registered in the census?
In any census Raffaela seems indicated as the wife of Louis Faverio, assumed her surname and so she's named on the grave (Raffaela Faverio).
As to the identification of the two Luigi/Louis there is nothing new to confirm it.