Marriage and baptismal record - help please.

[joeylukas]

Hello, My Name is Joseph Lukas

I am trying to follow my Italian routes from Hamilton, Ontario, Canada back to Racalmuto.

I have two documents that I needed help gathering information from please.

The first document (#360) is a Baptismal record for Racalmuto. I believe it is a record of Iganzio (Ingaticy) Miceli with his parents as Gaetano Miceli And Maria Scime. I was wondering if there is any more information on it. I.e. parents age? relatives? and full Birth date. Also how is Gaetano spelt on the record?

The second Document (#22) is what I believe is the marriage record of Gaetano and Maria Scime from 1877 Racalmuto. I am looking for information about their marriage Date, their occupations/ their parents and if there is any grandparents listed. Are both set of Parents from Racalumto?
i.e. For Gaetano - his parents, I am having a hard time reading their names i.e. Cr_____ Miceli and ______ Facciponti. For Maria I think it is Ignatici Scime and ____ Rizzo.

Any Help would be much appreciated.

Thank you Either way.

[PippoM]

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The first document (#360) is a Baptismal record for Racalmuto. I believe it is a record of Ignazio (Ignatius) Miceli with his parents as Gaetano Miceli And Maria Scime. I was wondering if there is any more information on it. I.e. parents age? relatives? and full Birth date. Also how is Gaetano spelt on the record?

Date of birth is the same as the previous record, i.e. Jan 30, 1890. There's no more info. The record is in Latin, so the name is spelled "Cajetanus"

[PippoM]

The second Document (#22) is what I believe is the marriage record of Gaetano and Maria Scime from 1877 Racalmuto. I am looking for information about their marriage Date, their occupations/ their parents and if there is any grandparents listed. Are both set of Parents from Racalumto?
i.e. For Gaetano - his parents, I am having a hard time reading their names i.e. Cr_____ Miceli and ______ Facciponti. For Maria I think it is Ignatici Scime and ____ Rizzo.

They married on Apr 7, 1877
Cajetanus (Gaetano) Miceli, son of Joachim (Gioacchino) and Aloysiae (Luisa, or Luigia) Facciponti.
Maria Scimè, daughter of Ignazio, and Maddalena Rizzo.
Both spouses never married, and from this town.
Witnesses Carmelo Facciponti and Santo Farrauto.

[mjclayton1]

@joeylucas

You're in very good hands here with Pippo, for sure, but interesting to me that you're probably well familiar with the Fratellanza Racalmutese Italian Club on Murray St., in Hamilton. I went there myself when I visited in 2019. My story is a long one (and would probably not interest you in the least - my Sicilian ancestor is NOT from Racalmuto), but I will say that I ventured to enter that establishment at that point in time.

I was somewhat intimidated to do so because I was a complete stranger and there were these older Italian men (clearly, "locals") who were playing cards, etc. Also, I entered "uninvited". However, one gentleman engaged me and asked about my curiosity with the place. I told him that my previously unknown grandfather lived in the neighborhood (Strachan St.) and probably frequented the establishment. He took pity on me and bought me a beer and we chatted a bit. Very kind (although he, too, especially intimidated me).

Anyway, good luck in your research.

[Tessa78]

Here is the civil marriage record with the information you are looking for.
#25
Dated 15 April 1877 in Racalmuto
Groom: Gaetano Miceli, age 23, sulfur miner, born and residing in Racalmuto, son of deceased Maestro Gioachino [Miceli] and [living] Luigia Facciponti.
Bride: Maria Scime', age 16, spinner, born and residing in Racalmuto, daughter of Ignazio Scime' and of Maria Maddalena Rizzo, both residing in Racalmuto.
Publication of banns of marriage posted on 25 March and 1 April.

Left side of image
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Birth of Maria Scime' in 1860
#274
Dated 25 July 1860 - birth on 24 July
Father: Ignazio Scime', 34, miller, residing Racalmuto
Mother: Maria Maddalena Rizzo, 26.
Born at home on 24 July at 10 PM, presented to the official by the midwife Rosa Cicotto, 62, on 25 July.
Child was given the name Maria.
Baptism on 25 July at the parish in Racalmuto
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 53/wWXyqJP

T.

[mjclayton1]

Edit to add from my prior post: "You're in very good hands here with Pippo AND "T", for sure..."

[Tessa78]

Grazie, mjclayton1.

Here is the birth of Gaetano Miceli in Racalmuto in 1853
#188
Dated 5 May 1853 - birth on 4 May
Father: Maestro Gioachino Miceli, 38, sulfur miner.
Mother: Aloisa Facciponti, 30.
Child born at home on 4 May @ 10 pm.
Presented to the official by Rosa Adamo, 35, midwife.
Given the name Gaetano.
Baptized on 5 May at the parish church in Racalmuto.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 42/wOlzEJl

T.

[joeylukas]

Wow!, that is awesome.

Pippo, Thank you for the translation/ information as I will add it to my notes.

myclayton1, I actually have not been to the Fratellanza Racalumotese Italian club. I will ask my parents about and may visit it soon. Also, I get it. I use to work in Hamilton as a medic, the people their are rough and intimidating but also very kind and friendly.

Tessa78 - Thank you for researching and translating those documents.

Thank you again, Have a great day.

[joeylukas]

Hello Again,

Thank you all again for your help in the past. It really helped me continue my search and understand the documents more.

May I ask for your help once more please. I am stuck and could use some tips or recommendations.

I am trying to find the state birth record for Ignazio (Ignatius) Miceli and Grazia Puma and cannot find anything on Portale Antenati web site. Do you have any suggestions?

- Ignazio Miceli - Son of Gaetano Miceli and Maria Scime. Birth Jan 30/1890 (possible from Racalmuto, Agrigento)

- Grazia Puma - Daughter of Francesio Puma and Guiseppa Giglia from Racalmuto, Argigento. (attached is Grazia church Baptismal record I believe.)

Thank you either way, You have already help me a lot.Have a great day
Joey Lukas

[mmogno]

#227. Birth record for Grazia Puma
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=672826

[joeylukas]

Hello,
Sorry I thought I replied to your last message.
Thank you for your help. it is very much appreciated