Marriage publication of Vincenzo Dursi and Maria Giuseppa Palazzo #23

[khoney]

Please tell me what the document states at the bottom of the left page after giving the date of birth of the bride and groom. I think it regards Vincenzo’s mother’s death but am not sure.

Thank you

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1947686

[erudita74]

Karen

The bottom of the left page has nothing to do with the death of the groom's mother. The town official questioned the spouses in conformity with article 67 of the decree of the civil state dated Nov 15, 1865. They told the official that in the year preceding the present act, they continued to live in this town and that the bride had not made another marriage contract preceding this one and that the the groom's preceding contract had resulted in the death of the wife (his).

Erudita

[khoney]

Thank you Erudita once more for your help. I was hoping this referred to the groom’s mother who died in this time period but is not shown in the films that are available on Family Search.

Karen

[erudita74]

Karen
I don't even see the name of Vincenzo's mother given in the record. I see his father's name, occupation, and age, and the name of the bride's deceased father, her mother's name, and her age. If you need records pre 1866 for the death, it looks like you'd have to access those at a local family history center. I'll double check tomorrow when I'm upstairs and on my computer. It's hard to read the records on this device.
Erudita

[AngelaGrace56]

I agree with Erudita that Vincenzo's mother's name isn't given in the pubblication. I've located the related marriage record which does give Vincenz'o mother's name and yes she was deceased. It looks like his mother's name was Maria Rosa Lauria???? I'll leave it here for Erudita to look at tomorrow as I'm working on other things at the present, and I don't want to cut in.


Marriage Record begins here: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1947686


Angela

[erudita74]

Thanks for the link to the marriage record, Angela. I see the marriage was in April 1873, but Maria Rosa is not in the death indices for the years at familysearch 1866, 1869, 1870, 1871, 1872, and 1873. Death records for 1867 and 1868 are missing. The earlier death records to 1864 are on the antenati portal. 1865 is missing. So, Karen, have you looked through the ones on the antenati website? If you believe the death was in one of the missing years, you might try to contact the parish there. I assume that, since you're a seasoned researcher, you've checked records for Vincenzo's siblings too, in case the date of death was incorporated in any of those. I don't know what else to tell you. Sorry.

Erudita

[erudita74]

Karen

I see Maria Rosa was alive when son Vincenzo married on Nov 23, 1862. I checked the indices for the other years on antenati, and she is not there. The info on familysearch has an estimated death year of 1864 for her, but she's not in the 1864 index for the town, which I'm guessing you already know. So, if she died in this town, then it would have been in one of the missing years-1865, 1867, or 1868, or possibly she died in some other town. I think you have no choice but to try to find a church death record. I see the parish name online, even at the town's website, but there is no email address to contact the parish. The parish does seem to have a facebook account though, should you have one, so you may be able to message the parish that way. Sorry, but I can't help you with that.

Erudita

http://www.chiaromonte.basilicata.it/zf ... rrocchia/1

[khoney]

Thank you Erudita and Angela Grace,

Maria Rosa Lauria (abt 1798- ) was living on 25 Jun 1863 when her son Giuseppe Antonio Dursi married and deceased by 14 Apr 1873 when her son Vincenzo married. Not finding her name in the indexes I went page by page through all of the available death records
available in that time period in case she was missed in the index.

I am corresponding with a gentleman who has visited Chiaromonte a few times. He was told that Registers from the 2 church are not available because they were too damaged. I also asked if the town office had a copy of the 1866-1910 records not filmed by Family Search such as the 1868, 1875 and 1901 death records but have not yet received a reply.

Again, thank you both so very much.
Karen

[erudita74]

Hopefully, you'll get a positive reply from the town office, Karen. Let us know, if you get lucky.
Erudita