Rosario Milanese and Francesca (can't read) last name

[lindamauer]

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2046915

Long ago Adelfio translated Francesca's last name as Cresi
I do not see that
Someone else is saying LaNasa
i can see that BUT
i would like another opinion
to translate mother's name--Francesca's surname
on Record #6 marriage of benedetto and Pasquala Monteleone
1867 April 29th
Thanks

[Tessa78]

I am reading La Nasa, found in Palermo province.

T.

[lindamauer]

Thanks !

[AngelaGrace56]

It could also be La Masa - a name also found in Palermo. I'm reading an M.

Angela

[mmogno]

Romano(?)

[AngelaGrace56]

Romano(?)

I'm also reading "Romano" nine lines down where it says "et quandam ...? Romano".


Regarding Francesca's surname though, which I see six lines down where it says "Rosario Milanese, et Francesca ...." I am reading Francesca's surname to be "La Masa".

(Of course I don't read Latin so I may be completely off-beat.)

Hope all is well, G.

Angela

[erudita74]

The surname is La Masa, as Angela has determined. Here are links to the death index with her name and to the record itself:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2046915

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2046915

The death record is dated Aug 4, 1855. Her parents were Nicola La Masa and Rosaria Parrino, both deceased. She was the wife of Rosario Milanese. She died at about age 46 and was buried in the church of S. Giuseppe. It appears that her parents were a married couple in a place called Plati Adriani in the record (when they were alive) but I haven't been able to locate it yet.

Maybe Palazzo Adriano ??? There is actually a street called via Giuseppe La Masa in this Palermo Province town.

Erudita

[lindamauer]

oh my -- thank you -- this confirms it-- La Masa

[erudita74]

Happy to help.
Erudita

[erudita74]

Linda - I'm reposting this, since my previous post was lost:

This is what I know to be true-

Benedetto Milanese and his first wife, Francesca Cannella, had at least two sons with the first name Felice born in Bisacquino. They would have been named for Benedetto’s father who was Felice (Felix in the Latin church records). The ones I found were:

Felice Milanese, son of Benedetto and Francesca Milanese dated April 1, 1785, folio 168, image 146 of 1389

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=969085

Felice Milanese, son of Benedetto and Francesco dated May 17, 1789, image 521 of 1389.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=969085

The Francesco Milanese, who was married to Maria Geraci, was the son of Benedetto Milanese and his wife, Bernarda Rosato, was born on Jan 14, 1794, folio 111, but the record seen below is dated on Jan 15th.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=969085

So Francesco was an older brother of Rosario, and not his grandfather, as the Campofiorito allegati would have you believe. After I found this record, and the following info, I also noticed that you yourself has the info on family search indicating that Francesco was an older brother of Rosario.

Francesco’s marriage publications in Campofiorito to Maria Geraci indicate that she was from Chiusa, dated Sept 29, 1825, top left

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=972115

Francesco’s remarriage in Campofiorito to Vincenza Tabbone Oct 26, 1858. He was the widower of Maria Geraci.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=972115

That’s all for now.
Erudita

[lindamauer]

Hey Hey,
Thank you so much for your extraordinary work and reach out.
fortunatly i printed out the thread to look it over in more detail. I am silly like that.
I will sort out this mess and see where the dust settles
Thank you again!
Linda

[erudita74]

Linda

One typo-

Felice Milanese, son of Benedetto and Francesca dated May 17, 1789, image 521 of 1389.

[lindamauer]

Hello,
I read for Francesco's second marriage Vincentia's parents as Petri Tabbone and Brigida Chiarelli do you agree? where were the three of them born.. campo?
Where is Chiusa? for maria geraci -- his first wife
I see a terra di chiese near Enna is this the town? what province?
Thanks
Linda

[mmogno]

Hello,
I read for Francesco's second marriage Vincentia's parents as deceased Pietro Tabbone and Brigida Chiarelli. Vincenza was widow of Michele Cacioppo
Where is Chiusa? for maria geraci -- his first wife Possibly Chiusa Sclafani, 11km south from Campofiorito

Linda

[lindamauer]

Thanks so much-- for the translation and extra info about being widowed.. i crave that kind of information lol