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I’m not sure if I’m posting in the correct area. I’m looking for info on my great grandfather.
Giuseppe (Joseph) Juliano
Born 3/17/1883. Died 1978in pennsylvania. Married to Carmela Napoline
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Where was he born?
We will need a town name?

Do you have his arrival manifest?
Names of children?

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Sorry. I’ll start over. Born 1883. Carmela Napoline was mother. Naples campania. Came over 1909 on so Konica Albert. Children. Grace, Nancy, Virginia, Lena, Florence, Anthony, Jean and rose.
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Sorry. I’ll start over. Born 1883. Carmela Napoline was mother. Naples campania. Came over 1909 on so Konig Albert. Children. Grace, Nancy, Virginia, Lena, Florence, Anthony, Jean and rose.
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Thank you for that information.

A few more questions:
Where did he settle in USA?
Did he marry in Italy or USA?
Were any children born in Italy?

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I searched for the ship manifest and I do not find a Giuseppe Juliano arriving in 1909 on the Konig Albert.
Do you have the ship manifest?

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Napoline does not sound like an Italian surname.
Could it be Napoleone? Quite popular in Naples.

Also, were they both born in Naples? Town or province?
Where did you get that information from?
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Here is a possibility for your Giuseppe Juliano.

Birth of Giuseppe Juliano in 1883 on 9 April in Marcianese (which is in the province of Caserta ) and the Campania REgion, the same region in which lies Naples.

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Dated 9 April 1883
Father: Giuseppe Juliano, 52, farmer
Mother: Raffaella Letizia, his wife.
Child was given the name Giuseppe.

Note: There is an annotation of Marriage on 21 January 1906 to Carmela Gionti.
Not the surname you mentioned, but still a possibility.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043630

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The marriage noted above
#5
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043630

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Here is a child named Giuseppe born to the above couple in October 1908 in Marcianise.
But you do NOT mention a child of theirs with that name.

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https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/co ... &pId=48666

This may be a red herring, but as Farassino mentioned, the surname Napoline is not found in the Campania Region.

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Is this your Joseph Juliano family? Residing in 1930 in Philadelphia?
Wife's name written as Tressa?
Can you tell us your source for the mother's name being Carmela Napoline?
The children seem to be the ones you mentioned above.
According to the census Giuseppe/Joseph arrived in 1909.
Wife and daughter, Grazia, arrived in 1910.
Daughter Grazia was born IN ITALY (Nusco - Province of Avellino) about 1909-1910 based on her age and place of birth on the Census.


https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-co ... cessSource

Name Joseph Juliano
Birth Year abt 1883
Gender Male
Race White
Age in 1930 47
Birthplace Italy
Marital Status Married
Relation to Head of House Head
Home in 1930 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Map of Home Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Street Address Wharton Street
Ward of City 36
Block 78
House Number 3223
Dwelling Number 54
Family Number 54
Home Owned or Rented Owned
Home Value 3, 000
Radio Set Yes
Lives on Farm No
Age at First Marriage 24
Attended School No
Able to Read and Write No
Father's Birthplace Italy
Mother's Birthplace Italy
Language Spoken Italian
Immigration Year 1909
Naturalization Naturalized
Able to Speak English Yes
Occupation Laborer.
Industry Street Railway Comp
Class of Worker Wage or salary worker
Employment Yes
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Joseph Juliano 47 Head
Tressa Juliano
43
Wife
Grace Juliano
20
Daughter
Nancy Juliano
18
Daughter
Lenna Juliano
15
Daughter
Florence Juliano
12
Daughter
Anthony Juliano
10
Son
Virginia Juliano
8
Daughter
Jennie Juliano
3
Daughter
Rose Juliano
1
Daughter

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EDIT TO ADD:
Here is an arrival manifest in 1910 November, for Grazia Juliano, age 7 months, traveling with mother Teresa Del Sordo [Tressa?] and going to father Giuseppe Juliano in Connellsville, PA

Grazia Julianno
in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name Grazia Julianno
Gender Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality Italian (South) (Italian)
Marital Status Single
Age 7/12
Birth Date abt 1910
Birth Place Italy
Other Birth Place Nusco
Last Known Residence Nusco, Italy
Departure Port Naples, Italy
Arrival Date 26 Nov 1910
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Residence Place Italy
Final Destination Connellsville, Pennsylvania
Hair Color Brown
Eye Color Brown
Complexion Regular
Person in Old Country Angelo (Teresa's father)
Person in Old Country Residence Nusco
Person in US Guiseppe Juliano
Person in US Relationship Father
Father
Guiseppe Juliano
Ship Name Romanic
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-co ... cessSource

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Birth act of the above Grazia/Grace Juliano in Nusco in February 1910
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Parents: Giuseppe Juliano, son of Domenico; and Teresa Del Sordo, daughter of Angelo.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043434

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I’ve found this family tree on Family Search.
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/perso ... s/GDY5-DGZ

As you can see it states Nusco as the place of origin of the Juliano family.

Furthermore there was a previous daughter, Nunzia, born on 02-12-1907 to Giuseppe and Teresa.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 80/Ly6l6DW

Nunzia died on 22-12-1908 aged 1 year.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 44/Lp9bbe1
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On this tree we can find this Carmela Napoline, added on 21-06-2024 by dmal13, which should be Giuseppe’s mother but the surname is totally wrong.

Giuseppe Juliano was born in Nusco on 20-03-1883.
Parents were Michele 25yo, contadino and Carmela Russo.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 12/wlkWGjD

Dinabean were you aware of this tree?
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Farassino wrote: 24 Jun 2024, 00:15 On this tree we can find this Carmela Napoline, added on 21-06-2024 by dmal13, which should be Giuseppe’s mother but the surname is totally wrong.

Giuseppe Juliano was born in Nusco on 20-03-1883.
Parents were Michele 25yo, contadino and Carmela Russo.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 12/wlkWGjD

Dinabean were you aware of this tree?
On the marriage act of Giuseppe and Teresa, his father is Domenico
It is also stated on the birth of Grazia.
I believe this is the correct birth act for Giuseppe Iuliano/Juliano
#77
Dated 30 April 1882 - with birth on same day
Father Domenico Iuliano
Mother: Nunzia Prudente
This shows the naming tradition for first born female if Giuseppe's first daughter was given the name Nunzia.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 10/LP6pyZ8

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Ooops!
You’re right Tessa.
The fact that that Giuseppe was born very close to the date that Dinabean supplied made me overlook other details.

I wonder where she got that date from.
And also that Carmela Napoline and the rest……

Waiting to hear from her.
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Farassino wrote: 24 Jun 2024, 13:04
Waiting to hear from her.
As am I.

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