Merani family from Genoa (Genova)

[veeeyepee]

Cheers Valarie. I think he must have had two wives. First one perhaps died?
I'll see if I can search into that.

Grandma told me some extra information today.
Apparently, Giacomo merani was a stowaway on a ship from genoa to liverpool. He apparently had a large family, and fought for Garibaldi against the Pope (due to the catholics taking all their money they earnt.)

Also, she told me that margret merani (or possibly Ellen? Not sure,) fled to America because she was pregnant?
Grandma says it was a rumour. But it could be true I guess. I heard that the shame of having a baby whilst unmarried was frowned upon.

And the post that Elizabeth sent of Ellen Winter's census in 1910, America claims that she is a servant? That's what I make it as. But I can barely make it out.

As an update: I'm trying to track down ship manifestos to see which sister traveled to NY with husband Willie Elwood Fletcher. Not much luck so far but fro mwhat I gather, he could possibly be an American citizen.


Sarah

[veeeyepee]

Update:
Cannot figure out who married Willie Elwood Fletcher. Searched for him on ellisisland but can never get the right guy.. then its the case of finding which of Ellen's sister's he married.
Something in my head is telling me though that he's American because of 'Elwood' resting in his name. I'm not 100% sure, but it seems believable?

Sarah

[vj]

Hey Sarah!
We'll take a look too
Valarie

[vj]

Could be Eleanor Winter, cousin to Margaret Melani
(from Margaret's 1909 manifest)
This may be her manifest, headed to Saratoga in Oct 1909.

1909 manifest
page 2
11 Oct 1909 SS Arabic, Liverpool to NY
Line 27
Ellen Winter 29 (abt 1880)
- single
- domestic
- last residence Liverpool
- in Liverpool, father John Winter 3 (13?) Everton View, Prince Edward Lane
- joining brother-in-law Willie Elwood Fletcher? At Blumfield Farm
- born in Liverpool, England

Looks like Wilbur Elwood Fletcher
married to an English wife, Catherine in abt 1908
Working on Bloomfield's farm in 1910

1910 census
Home in 1910:
Greenfield, Saratoga, New York
Head Wilbur Fletcher 26 (abt 1884) NY
- farm laborer
Wife Catherine Fletcher 24 (abt 1886) England
- no immigration date
Daughter Henrietta Fletcher 10/12 (abt 1909) NY

Note:
Another Fletcher family next door, both families working for Bloomfield?
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Looks like Wilbur was married twice, 2nd wife Anna born in NY

1918 WWI Card
Wilbur Elwood Fletcher
9 Oct 1883
- policeman, Saratoga Springs
- nearest relative Anna Fletcher

1920 census
Home in 1920:
Saratoga Springs, Saratoga, New York
Head Wilber Fletcher 35 (abt 1885) NY
- teamster, livery stable
Wife Anna Fletcher 34 (abt 1886) NY
Daughter Ethel Van Arnum 12 (abt 1908) NY
- parents born in NY

[vj]

Mary Winter Merani’s brother John Winter in 1891
(will add to John’s records on pg 2)

3 of John’s daughters in 1891 at Liverpool Industrial School?
Ellen & Catharine emigrated later to Saratoga County NY?

1891 census: Ellen’s page

Civil Parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Kirkdale
ED, institution, or vessel: Liverpool Industrial School

Ann (Hannah?) Winters Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Liverpool, Lancashire
Ellen Winter Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Everton, Lancashire
Catharine Winter Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Liverpool, Lancashire
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Father John Winters in the Liverpool Workhouse
(may have been temporary if his wife died - a way of making
sure his children were cared for)

1891 census

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Columb
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant
ED, institution, or vessel: Liverpool Workhouse

John Winter Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Liverpool, Lancashire
- printer

[BillieDeKid]

vj -

I believe the Ellen Winters in the 1910 census I found and the info you just posted for estimated birth year of 1883 is a match. Age on census is 27.

[vj]

Elizabeth,
I think you're right!
Really nice census
Valarie

[veeeyepee]

So is catherine an extra child that john winter had with his second wife kate?

Sarah

[vj]

Sarah,
yes, that's our best guess
Valarie

[veeeyepee]

Hey everybody!

Received the marriage certificate today and it doesn't tell me where abouts Giacomo came from in Italy. It does however say his father's name, which might help... not sure though?

They got married on Octomber 2nd 1871 in liverpool. Giacomo's father was named Pasquale merani... also a Mariner.

I also have the street name that Giacomo lived on at the time of marrying Mary;

It looks like either a Trent Street or Front street? Then below it looks like Townsend street. But its not clear. I don't know if that's any help though :S

God this is confusing. can anyone help?

Sarah xx

[pink67]

Hi Sara,
maybe you can try to look in these Baptismal certificates on the Family History Centers Films....

Laura

Hi All!!

from Familysearch.org:

Isabella Merani
Event(s):
Birth: 11 FEB 1879

Christening: 02 MAR 1879 St Matthews, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Parents:
Father: John Merani
Mother: Mary Merani


Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C012229 Film


Margaret Merani
Event(s):
Birth: 04 APR 1883

Christening: 06 MAY 1883 St Matthews, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Parents:
Father: John Merani Family
Mother: Mary

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C020888

Mary Merani
Event(s):
Birth: 06 JAN 1874

Christening: 01 FEB 1874 St Matthews, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Parents:
Father: John Merani Family
Mother: Mary Merani

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C012229

Perhaps on these Baptism Certificate Sarah can find the exact birth place of John Merani, however, Merani is a common last name here in Liguria, especially in the east area of the Region, in the La Spezia Province...

Laura

[veeeyepee]

Hey everyone!

I'm really stuck with where to go next. If these baptismal certificates cost then I don't know if I'll be able to get them. Is there any free way at all that I can research this? Every site I go on costs money... such an expensive hobby!

Help anyone? I don't know what to do next...


Sarah

[suanj]

sorry duplicate post

[pink67]

Hey everyone!

I'm really stuck with where to go next. If these baptismal certificates cost then I don't know if I'll be able to get them. Is there any free way at all that I can research this? Every site I go on costs money... such an expensive hobby!

Help anyone? I don't know what to do next...


Sarah

Hi Sarah,

I don't think that a look at these certificates can cost a lot... I've never been in a Family History Center but I know from this helpful site that you have to pay to rent the microfilm and then you can search in....
And you're lucky because you know the exact number of the microfilms....
Did you tried to contact your nearest Family Center to ask it this is possible?
Here you can find the list:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library ... et_fhc.asp

Ciao!
Laura