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Biff83 wrote:Hey, T, nice work on the marriage record.
Likely mother's surname for Marianna is Cardinale, and likely surame of Carmelo's mother Concetta is Carmella--based on names listed on ship manifests with last residence and/or birth place as Bivona.
Possible birth record for Giuseppa Vasile (wife of Alfonso Marciante), born 1860. This is in line with the age of Giuseppa on the 1898 manifest (age 37).
Name: Giuseppa Vasile
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Feb 1860
Baptism/Christening Place: Bivona, Agrigento, Italy
Birth Date: 09 Feb 1860
Birthplace: Bivona, Agrigento, Italy
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race: Father's Name: Francesco Vasile
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age: Mother's Name: Maria Tamburello
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C74015-9
System Origin: Italy-ODM
Source Film Number: 1466329
Reference Number:
Collection: Italy Births and Baptisms, 1806-1900
Thank you all so much. Yes my (great) uncle Paul was born on New Year's Eve, so that works. My Grandmother - his older sister - was born about 2 years earlier, it may have been in New York before they moved to the Chicago area.
My grandfather is Alfonso Marciante (Luigi - born 1882 -'s son). Yes they were first cousins, growing up separated by 800 miles with different last names no one checked... Marriage may have been in New York (they honeymooned at Niagra Falls) but I have not been able to find any record of it.
I will have to fond a local LDS center here in the Chicago suburbs to continue the birth record research. Thanks Tessa for finding Alfonso there in Bivona, that confirms the area they moved from.
My grandfather is Alfonso Marciante (Luigi - born 1882 -'s son). Yes they were first cousins, growing up separated by 800 miles with different last names no one checked... Marriage may have been in New York (they honeymooned at Niagra Falls) but I have not been able to find any record of it.
So we have...
GGGF - Alfonso Marciante - b. 1850
GGF - Luigi Marciante - b. 1882
GF - Alfonso Marciante --- DOB ??? Place of birth ???
What is grandmother's maiden name? (wife of GF Alfonso) Date of Marriage?
T.
Hi Biff! Nice finds on the sisters' marriage records.
GM is Concettina Vasile born 25 Oct 1908. I do not have their marriage date.
Alfonso was born 20 June 1908.
Both of these are from family knowledge, so far I have not found any birth records - if anyone could help with that I would be appreciative. My GM was born at home - not unusual at the time - and repeatedly said she had no birth certificate.
Biff - can you post links to those marriage records or at least the site you found them at? I have no idea where to find them.
rcpilotjohn wrote:Biff - can you post links to those marriage records or at least the site you found them at? I have no idea where to find them.
Thanks!
Here ya go. Scroll down to New York City Bride Index. http://www.stevemorse.org/
This site is one of the best out there for searching for ship manifests and other genealogical documents.
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