Olivo Family

[rymini]

I have hit a dead end trying to research family history and was wondering if there is someplace else I can look.
My Great Grandfather was Francesco Olivo his immigration record states home as Udine and his father's name as Pietro. My Grandmother's name states Maria Arbolina from Cesa and they had a child named Guiseppe in July 1907 that was born in italy. Francesco best as I can tell had two sisters Rosa Olivo Lepre and Angelina Olivo Verdi

If anyone can help provide me with the next piece of the puzzle it would be greatly appreciated.

[vj]

Welcome to the Forum!
We would be happy to help.
Are you missing any of your US(?) records (census, military, ship manifests)
Thank you
Valarie

Is this the correct ship manifest for Giuseppe and his mother, Maria Alborino(?)

possible 1913 manifest
21 Nov 1913, SS Ancona, Naples to NY
lines 6-7
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0007
page 2
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0007

edit: added
detained page, line 2
http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/5223/1913dp.jpg

(hi suanj! )

[suanj]

On Udine State's archive it are only 3 Francesco Olivo, but nobody son of Pietro; you sure that the father was Pietro; on the ship's manifest Francesco next of kin is Maria wife ( ALBORINO maiden name by arrival in 1914) in Udine...
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0012

here the Olivo Francesco records by Udine Udine State's archive website:

name -birthyear- birthplace- father name -mother name
OLIVO FRANCESCO nato nel 1882 a POCENIA da ANGELO e MARIN DOMENICA
IT/ASUD/LEVA/1882/E.314/LAT/P-40


OLIVO FRANCESCO nato nel 1886 a BAGNARIA ARSA da FERDINANDO e DONATO ANNA
IT/ASUD/LEVA/1886/E.001/PLM/P-190
IT/ASUD/LEVA/1887/E.001/PLM/R-54
IT/ASUD/LEVA/1888/E.001/PLM/R-11


OLIVO FRANCESCO nato nel 1888 a PASIAN DI PRATO da AGOSTINO e SAGER GIUSTA
IT/ASUD/LEVA/1888/E.001/UDN/P-639


suanj

[suanj]

After the travel in USA by Chicago ship(Apr 28, 1913) Francesco Olivo came in Canada( Toronto) and back in USA in aug 1913; on the ship's manifest just another detail:
born in Piano di Udine..
Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Francesco Olivo Name: Francesco Olivo
Arrival Date: Aug 1913
Age: 30
Birth Date: abt 1883
Birth Country: Italy
Gender: Male

Port of Arrival: Buffalo


pag 1 http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4513/olivo1o.jpg

pag 2 http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5603/olivo2o.jpg

[vj]

Hi rymini and suanj,

...My Great Grandfather was Francesco Olivo his immigration record states home as Udine and his father's name as Pietro. My Grandmother's name states Maria Arbolina from Cesa....

Would his wife and son be from Cesa Caserta, almost 900 km from Udine?
Can't figure out what another possibility could be for their comune...
On the Nov 1913 they're joining a Francesco Olivo in Netcong (Morris County) New Jersey (changed from NY NY)
Valarie

edit: added

another 1913 manifest possibility?
this Francesco is from Cesa

7 Jun 1913, SS Perugia, Naples to NY
line 28
Francesco Oliva 30 (abt 1883)
wife Luigia Alborino(?)
in NY 1910-1912

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0028
page 2
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0028

[vj]

This may be the family from the 1913 manifests in Netcong NJ
Are they related to your family?

from ancestry. com (subscription)

1942 WWII Draft Registration Card
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/982/1942g.jpg
(unsigned)

Frank Joseph Olivo
Barone St, Netcong, NJ
25 Oct 1882 in Naples
L Arbolina at same address
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1930 census
two Olivo families - both with first sons named Joseph

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1296/1930m.jpg

Home in 1930:
Netcong, Morris, New Jersey

Frank Olivo 47, abt 1883 IT
Louise Olivo 45, abt 1885 IT
Joseph Olivo 22, abt 1908 IT
Anthony Olivo 11, abt 1919 NJ
Sarina Olivo 9
Chester Olivo 7
Jerry Olivo 5
Madalena Olivo 1 4/12

Daniel Olivo 45, abt 1885 IT
Joseph Olivo 15
Annie Olivo 11
Jerry Olivo 9

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1920 census
both Verdi (sister Angelina?) and Olivo folks on the same census page
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5760/1920u.jpg

Home in 1920:
Netcong, Morris, New Jersey

Frank Oliva 37, abt 1883 IT
Louise Oliva 35, abt 1885 IT
Joseph Oliva 12, abt 1908 IT
Tony Oliva 1 3/12, abt 1918 NJ
(boarder) Alfonso Verdie 24

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1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1844/1918s.jpg

Francesco Olivo
Morris Conty, NJ
Nov 1882
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... Francesco best as I can tell had two sisters Rosa Olivo Lepre and Angelina Olivo Verdi...

Sister Rosa?
Name: Rose Lepre
SSN: 140-42-xxxx
Last Residence: 07857 Netcong, Morris, New Jersey
Born: 2 Aug 1886 Died: 15 Jul 1966 State (Year)
SSN issued: New Jersey (1965)

[vj]

I have hit a dead end trying to research family history and was wondering if there is someplace else I can look...

If your family is from Cesa, Caserta, Campania
ancestry. com has civil records for Cesa online for 1862-1939 in Italian

Caserta, Campania, Italy, Civil Registration Records, 1862-1939

If you don't have a World subscription to Ancestry, you can call 1-800-ANCESTRY for (possible) free trial or subscription options
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these may help:

Italian Record Research from FamilySearch guides:
Italy Research Outline

Also from FamilySearch (PDF format)
Italian Records Extraction - An Instructional Guide
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example:

Francesco Olivo
1882 birth record with marriage notation

page 1 (bottom)
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8131/1882i.jpg

page 2 (top)
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1859/188201.jpg
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edit: added

1906 marriage record
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/3048/1906z.jpg

[rymini]

Wow thank you all for such a quick response. Udine came off of his immigration records and Pietro came from his military records. I do belong to Ancenstry and I have the records indicated above. I agree North & South Italy a weird situation ~ thinking maybe Pietro was from Udine and Francesco went home to help with something ~ They did move to Netcong, where I currently reside.

[suanj]

Hi Valarie,
Olivo is a popular surname; maybe the poster:

My Grandmother's name states Maria Arbolina from Cesa and they had a child named Guiseppe in July 1907

found the Giuseppe Olivo ship's manifest
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0291%2ETIF
father Francesco Olivo also and he thinked that was the son and wife of Francesco Olivo of Udine...
it is possible that the wife of Francesco Olivo of Udine was another Maria and not Maria Alborino? this surname is not in Udine area...
if the poster can say us if he is pretty sure abt Maria maiden name it can be helpful for search progress... Me too think that is very strange that a man of Udine marrying in Cesa....
suanj

[suanj]

here another trip of Francesco Olivo born in Udine:
Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Francisco Olivo Name: Francisco Olivo
Arrival Date: 8 Dec 1921
Age: 39
Birth Date: abt 1882
Birthplace: Udine
Birth Country: Italy
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Italian (North) (Italian)

Port of Arrival: Niagara Falls, New York, USA
Record has photo?: No

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1382/olivoa.jpg

again:
Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Francesco Olivo Name: Francesco Olivo
Arrival Date: 24 Dec 1921
Age: 39
Birth Date: abt 1882
Birth Country: Italy
Gender: Male

Port of Arrival: Niagara Falls, New York, USA

in the 1921 the wife was in Udine...
pag 1 http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/6544/olivo3.jpg
pag 2 http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1501/olivo4.jpg
now it are 2 possibilities:
1. or Maria Luigia Alborino is not the wife of Francesco Olivo of Udine
2. or Francesco Olivo born in Udine, it was not the ancestor of poster..

same thing in trip of 1913:
Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Francesco Olivo Name: Francesco Olivo
Arrival Date: 11 Aug 1913
Age: 30
Birth Date: abt 1883
Birthplace: Vat Udine It
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Italian (North) (Italian)

Port of Arrival: Buffalo
Departure Contact: Wife Maria
Record has photo?: No

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8936/olivo1.jpg

and 1917 trip:
Michigan Passenger and Crew Lists, 1903-1965
about Francesco Olivio Name: Francesco Olivio
Arrival Date: 9 Apr 1917
Port of Arrival: Sault Sainte Marie, Michigan
Last Resided: Ontario, Canada
Age: 35
Birth Date: 1882
Birth Location: Udine, Italy
Gender: Male
Nationality: Italy
Record Type: Card

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6070/olivo5.jpg
so seeming that Francesco Olivo coming from Udine had the wife Maria in Udine almost until 1921!!!
suanj

[rymini]

I will continue my search and thank you again for all of your assistance ~ they work that you do is priceless!!!
Thanks again

[vj]

Hi rymini and suanj
Thank you , I thought it was odd - that is quite a distance
I'm not sure, but we may have two Francesco Olivo's married to women with similar names?
The 1906 marriage record from Cesa is a Francesco Olivo marrying Maria Luigia Alborino(?)
These may be the folks from Netcong, Morris, NJ?
Valarie

[rymini]

I'm so excited this marriage certificate must be theirs ~ Thank you Thank You thank you ~ Family is everything and this will remain in my family forever! God Bless you all for your help

[suanj]

rymini but you are sure that your ancestor coming from Udine? I believe he was born in Cesa: by birth act, the Francesco's father was Giuseppe Olivo (no Pietro) and the mother Maddalena Marino..

[vj]

rymini but you are sure that your ancestor coming from Udine? I believe he was born in Cesa: by birth act, the Francesco's father was Giuseppe Olivo (no Pietro) and the mother Maddalena Marino..

suanj
I agree, Cesa looks correct
Thank you so much for translating the parents' names - I couldn't decipher the mother's name on either the 1882 birth record or 1906 marriage record
Valarie