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I need to pick the forums brains again.

I finally have my gmothers birth & death certificate. It states that Felicia Giancola's mother was Vincenza Marinaro & father Giuseppe Giancola. It does not give any place & date of birth details for her parents. If Felicia was born 1906, then they were pehaps born 1890 (give or take)

My question is : 1) now how do I find details for Vincenza Marinaro & Giuseppe Giancola (especially without their birth dates)

2) I know Vincenza Marinaro immigrated to America & there is Ellis Island records for that name but how do I know it is her? She married Giuseppe in America, can I get these records?

3) on my gmother Felicia Giancola death certificate it says "ed era VEDOVA GIANCOLA ANTONIO". would that be her husband? what does the VEDOVA mean?


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Silvana: the phrase mean" was widow of Antonio Giancola died ( husband).. " but is strange... suanj
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To find a marriage record in the US you need to know the state the marriage occured in and possibly the county depending on the year. Unless you are lucky and it is in one of the databases on ancestry.com

The death certificate you have. What government issued it?

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There are 6 Vincenza Marinaro listed in Ellis Island. Do you know the town or year of immigration. YOu have to look at the manifests and read each one for pertinent information.

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thank you for your reply Suanj & VaDeb


Suanj why did you think it was strange my gmothers husband name was listed on her death certificate?. Is this not usually done. I also applied for my fathers birth certificate (1935) because we do not know who his father is. It was not listed on it, only his mother.


I have checked the Vincenza Marinaro listed at Ellis Island but I do not know how to confirm which is her. Most proably the one who came from Mistretta with Sebastiano, Carmela, Franceso & ? Angela Rampullo to stay with Giuseppe & Felice, cant exactly make out where they stayed.I was told Vincenza had some brothers in New York or New Jersey. How can I obtain census records?

Can I request other records for Giuseppe Giancola, even without his date of birth, he was from Castelpetroso & would they have any info about his wife.


still in a pickle.

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Angela Rampullo to stay with Giuseppe & Felice, cant exactly make out where they stayed.
From what a can see...

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 2313150232

Sebastiano Marinaro and Angela Rampullo was going to stay with their son Giuseppe and daughter Felice on 215 East 10 (?) Street in New York... and as for the rest of the family is says they would be staying with "the same persons..."

In time, I am sure someone could do a census look up for you here at this forum.

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Just to clarify,

The death certificate that noted VEDOVA GIANCOLA ANTONIO was issued by the comune where he died in Italy. Correct?

If you go to a FHC you should be able to access census results on line. Done every 10 years and the most recent available is 1930.

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1910 New York:

MARINARO ALEXANDRIA 68 F W ITAL NY NEW YORK 12-WD MANHATTAN 1910

MARINARO CIRO 24 M W ITAL NY NEW YORK 12-WD MANHATTAN 1910

MARINARO FILOMENA 49 F W ITAL NY ERIE 25-WD BUFFALO 1910

MARINARO FRANCIS K 24 M W ITAL NY KINGS 31-WD BROOKLYN 1910

MARINARO GAETANO 48 M W ITAL NY NEW YORK 12-WD MANHATTAN 1910

MARINARO JENNIE 20 F W ITAL NY NEW YORK 17-WD MANHATTAN 1910

MARINARO JOSEPH 46 M W ITAL NY WESTCHESTER 1-WD WHITE PLAINS 1910

MARINARO MARY 60 F W ITAL NY NEW YORK 12-WD MANHATTAN 1910

MARINARO MICHAEL 25 M W ITAL NY NEW YORK 9-WD MANHATTAN 1910

MARINARO MOLLIE F W NY NY NEW YORK 12-WD MANHATTAN 1910

MARINARO NICK 37 M W ITAL NY KINGS 10-WD BROOKLYN 1910

MARINARO NICOLA 38 M W ITAL NY KINGS 14-WD BROOKLYN 1910

MARINARO TONY 55 M W ITAL NY KINGS 10-WD BROOKLYN 1910

MARINARO VINCENZO 40 M W ITAL NY NEW YORK 14-WD MANHATTAN 1910


1920 New York:

MARINARO ANGELA 59 F W ITAL NY NEW YORK MANHATTAN 1920

MARINARO ANTHONY 27 M W NY NY ERIE 26-WD BUFFALO 1920

MARINARO DANIEL 21 M W NY NY ERIE 26-WD BUFFALO 1920

MARINARO DOMINICK 33 M W ITAL NY NEW YORK MANHATTAN 1920

MARINARO DOMNICK 25 M W ITAL NY NEW YORK MANHATTAN 1920

MARINARO FRANK 35 M W ITAL NY BRONX BRONX 1920

MARINARO JOHN 31 M W ITAL NY NEW YORK MANHATTAN 1920

MARINARO JOSEPH 21 M W ITAL NY CHEMUNG 7-WD ELMIRA 1920

MARINARO JOSEPH 50 M W ITAL NY KINGS BROOKLYN 1920

MARINARO JOSEPH 38 M W ITAL NY NEW YORK MANHATTAN 1920

MARINARO JOSEPH 35 M W ITAL NY NEW YORK MANHATTAN 1920

MARINARO MARY 68 F W ITAL NY NEW YORK MANHATTAN 1920

MARINARO MARY 56 F W ITAL NY NEW YORK MANHATTAN 1920

MARINARO MICHAEL 31 M W ITAL NY NEW YORK MANHATTAN 1920

MARINARO MICHEAL 35 M W ITAL NY WESTCHESTER OSSINING 1920

MARINARO PETER 27 M W ITAL NY ONEIDA 1-WD ROME 1920

MARINARO ROCCO 46 M W ITAL NY KINGS BROOKLYN 1920

MARINARO SALVATORE 15 M W NY NY KINGS BROOKLYN 1920

MARINARO SALVATORE 24 M W ITAL NY NEW YORK MANHATTAN 1920

MARINARO VINCENT 32 M W ITAL NY MONROE 17-WD ROCHESTER 1920

MARINARO VINCENZO 60 M W ITAL NY NEW YORK MANHATTAN 1920


1930:
Surname Given Name Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year

MARINARO JERRY 55 M W ITAL CT NEW HAVEN 2-WD WATERBURY 1930

MARINARO JOSEPH J 38 M W ITAL CT FAIRFIELD 2-WD DANBURY 1930

MARINARO LOUIS 50 M W ITAL CT FAIRFIELD 2-WD DANBURY 1930

MARINARO PETER 59 M W ITAL CT NEW HAVEN 11-WD NEW HAVEN 1930

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1910 and 1920 New Jersey......

Surname Given Name Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year

MARINARO ANGELO 28 M W ITAL NJ ESSEX 15-WD NEWARK 1910

MARINARO ANTONY 26 M W ITAL NJ MONMOUTH 2-WD LONG BRANCH 1910

MARINARO GAETANO 30 M W ITAL NJ ESSEX 15-WD NEWARK 1910

MARINARO GIOVANNI 21 M W ITAL NJ PASSAIC 1-WD PASSAIC 1910

MARINARO GIUSEPPE 20 M W ITAL NJ PASSAIC 1-WD PASSAIC 1910

MARINARO JOHN 50 M W ITAL NJ MORRIS 2-WD MORRISTOWN 1910

MARINARO JOSEPH 28 M W ITAL NJ MONMOUTH 2-WD LONG BRANCH 1910

MARINARO PHILLIPO 28 M W ITAL NJ HUNTERDON BLOOMSBURY BORO 1910

MARINARO SAMUEL 33 M W RUSS NJ CUMBERLAND LANDIS TWP 1910

MARINARO SATO 28 M W ITAL NJ MERCER 9-WD TRENTON 1910


Surname Given Name Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year

MARINARO ADAM 29 M W ITAL NJ ESSEX 9-WD; NEWARK CITY 1920

MARINARO CHARLES 29 M W ITAL NJ MONMOUTH 5-WD; LONG BRANCH 1920

MARINARO CONCETTA 47 F W ITAL NJ HUDSON 4-WD; HOBOKEN 1920

MARINARO JOHN 55 M W ITAL NJ ESSEX 14-WD; NEWARK CITY 1920

MARINARO JOSEPH 50 M W ITAL NJ MONMOUTH 5-WD; LONG BRANCH 1920

MARINARO JOSEPH 29 M W ITAL NJ PASSAIC 1-WD; PASSAIC 1920

MARINARO LOUIS 44 M W ITAL NJ MORRIS 2-WD; MORRISTOWN 1920

MARINARO MICHAEL 35 M W ITAL NJ ESSEX 14-WD; NEWARK CITY 1920

MARINARO NICHOLAS 54 M W ITAL NJ MORRIS 2-WD; MORRISTOWN 1920

MARINARO PHILIP 41 M W ITAL NJ MORRIS 2-WD; MORRISTOWN 1920

MARINARO ROSARIO 38 M W ITAL NJ PASSAIC 2-WD; PASSAIC 1920

MARINARO SERAFINO 30 M W ITAL NJ PASSAIC 4-WD; CLIFTON 1920

MARINARO TONY 30 M W ITAL NJ PASSAIC 1-WD; PASSAIC 1920


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Hi Silvana: Vincenza Marinaro & Giuseppe Giancola was relatives of Felicia Giancola; Felicia Giancola was married of Antonio Giancola? same surname? perhaps my english no good, why I understand so... about the "strange" is why same surname Felicia and Antonio spouses... regards, suanj
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Surname Given Name Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year

GIANCOLA ALFRED 42 M W ITAL NY WESTCHESTER 7-WD YONKERS 1910

GIANCOLA CARMINE 28 M W ITAL NY LIVINGSTON PORTAGE 1910

GIANCOLA FELICE 37 M W ITAL NY KINGS 17-WD BROOKLYN 1910

GIANCOLA FERDINANDO 25 M W ITAL NY KINGS 19-WD BROOKLYN 1910

GIANCOLA JOHN 23 M W ITAL NY LIVINGSTON PORTAGE 1910

GIANCOLA JOHN 36 M W ITAL NY NEW YORK 20-PCT 33-AD BRONX 1910

GIANCOLA NICK 43 M W ITAL NY LIVINGSTON PORTAGE 1910

Surname Given Name Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year

GIANCOLA ALBERT 35 M W ITAL NY WESTCHESTER 2-WD YONKERS 1920

GIANCOLA CHARLES 34 M W ITAL NY NEW YORK MANHATTAN 1920

GIANCOLA FELIX 47 M W ITAL NY NEW YORK MANHATTAN 1920

GIANCOLA FRED 38 M W ITAL NY KINGS BROOKLYN 1920

GIANCOLA JOHN 46 M W ITAL NY WESTCHESTER MAMARONECK 1920

GIANCOLA JOSEPH 35 M W ITAL NY KINGS BROOKLYN 1920

GIANCOLA LUIGI 29 M W ITAL NY WESTCHESTER MAMARONECK 1920

GIANCOLA RALPH 55 M W ITAL NY WESTCHESTER 7-WD YONKERS 1920


Surname Given Name Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year

GIANCOLA AREGON 48 M W ITAL NJ CUMBERLAND VINELAND BORO 1910

GIANCOLA JAMES 22 M W ITAL NJ MORRIS 2-WD MORRISTOWN 1910

GIANCOLA VITTORIO 31 M W ITAL NJ ESSEX CEDAR GROVE TWP 1910

Surname Given Name Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year

GIANCOLA CARMINE 24 M W ITAL NJ MERCER 5-WD; TRENTON 1920

GIANCOLA FORTONATO 50 M W ITAL NJ ESSEX CEDAR GROVE 1920

GIANCOLA FRANK 52 M W ITAL NJ ESSEX CEDAR GROVE 1920

GIANCOLA GREGORI 61 M W ITAL NJ CUMBERLAND VINELAND 1920

GIANCOLA JOHN 57 M W ITAL NJ ESSEX 10-WD; NEWARK CITY 1920

GIANCOLA YOLANDA 8 F W NJ NJ ESSEX CEDAR GROVE 1920


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thank you suanj and mfjp and wldspirit,


Suanj sorry I see what you mean. It's not too uncommon in my family, they seemed to marry 1st cousins or other relatives!!!

g'day mfjp thank you for clearing it up. It never occured to me that Angela would be married to Sebastiano. Would she travel under her maiden name ?

Thank you wildspirit I truely wished I recognised a name. I will keep them & hopefully someone will jump out. Can you check for marriage records :idea: it was just a chance: Giuseppe Giancola & Vincenza Marinaro were apparently married in America.


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Maybe another forum member can check the census.......if not, I will try to check them out when I have more time...........
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checked into the census.........I found nothing of interest.......we need more identifying information......if you come up with something else, let us all know and maybe we can track your elusive family!!!!!!!!
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Re: manifest with childrens names.. traveling with Angela and Sebastiano

Vincenza age 16
Carmela age 14
Francesco age 10
g'day mfjp thank you for clearing it up. It never occured to me that Angela would be married to Sebastiano. Would she travel under her maiden name ?
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