SPADAFORA, Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy
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SPADAFORA, Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy
I need some help,
Need a list of names of people who went to the war who were from Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata.
My last name is Spadafora but it is not suppose to be....
Long story short
My granfathers name was Isidoro Spadafora who was born in Grumento Nova, Potenza. He is not alive anymore.
His parents were:
great grandfathers name was Pasquale Spadafora maried to Rosalea Bafunno
(I do not know biirthdays but will be between 1890 - 1905)
Now Rosalea Bafunno slept with another man who went to the war but did not want Pasquale to know that she did, so Isidoro was born with the last name Spadafora, but its not hus real last name nor is it mine, our whole family do not really know who we are we all have the last name Spadafora but its not right,
Does anyone have a list of the names of people from Grumento Nova that went to the war? That would narrow it down a little bit for me
Thank you everyone!
Need a list of names of people who went to the war who were from Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata.
My last name is Spadafora but it is not suppose to be....
Long story short
My granfathers name was Isidoro Spadafora who was born in Grumento Nova, Potenza. He is not alive anymore.
His parents were:
great grandfathers name was Pasquale Spadafora maried to Rosalea Bafunno
(I do not know biirthdays but will be between 1890 - 1905)
Now Rosalea Bafunno slept with another man who went to the war but did not want Pasquale to know that she did, so Isidoro was born with the last name Spadafora, but its not hus real last name nor is it mine, our whole family do not really know who we are we all have the last name Spadafora but its not right,
Does anyone have a list of the names of people from Grumento Nova that went to the war? That would narrow it down a little bit for me
Thank you everyone!
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Re: SPADAFORA, Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy
This looks like your great grandparents marriage record here:
Marriage Act No 20: Pasquale Spadafora and Rosolia Bafunno
Saponara di Grumento (Now called Grumento Nova, since 1933): 20 December 1909, 10.30 am
Groom: Pasquale Spadafora, celibe (unmarried), 32 yo (1877), pastore (shepherd), born and residing Saponara di Grumento, son of deceased Paolo, who resided in this town when living, and (son) of deceased Maria Michela Latronico, residing in this town when living.
Bride: Rosolia Bafunno, nubile (unmarried woman), 16 yo (1893), contadina, born in Saponara di Grumento, residing in this town, daughter of Antonio Bafunno, and Caterina Fruguglietti, both residing in this town.
Witnesses: Raffaele Vertunni, 28, farmacista (pharmacist), and Donato Caputi, 26 yo, guardia urbana (urban guard).
Banns were posted on 28 November and 5 December, current year.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2043547
Birth Record No 24: Rosolia Bafunno
Saponara di Grumento (Grumento Nova): 21 April 1893, 10.15 am
Rosa Di Tommaso, 67 yo, contadina (peasant), living in this town, reported that at 10.30 am, on 17 April 1893, at a house in via Peruzzo, No 237, from Caterina Fruguglietti, contadina (peasant), legitimate wife of Antonio Bafunno, contadino, both living in this town. The baby girl who was not presented, was given the name Rosolia.
Rosa Di Tommaso, who registered the birth, in place of the father, had also assisted with the birth. Antonio Bafunno was not able to do so because he was a long way from the town at the time.
The declarant was given an exemption from presenting the baby due to frailty.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2043547
Angela
Marriage Act No 20: Pasquale Spadafora and Rosolia Bafunno
Saponara di Grumento (Now called Grumento Nova, since 1933): 20 December 1909, 10.30 am
Groom: Pasquale Spadafora, celibe (unmarried), 32 yo (1877), pastore (shepherd), born and residing Saponara di Grumento, son of deceased Paolo, who resided in this town when living, and (son) of deceased Maria Michela Latronico, residing in this town when living.
Bride: Rosolia Bafunno, nubile (unmarried woman), 16 yo (1893), contadina, born in Saponara di Grumento, residing in this town, daughter of Antonio Bafunno, and Caterina Fruguglietti, both residing in this town.
Witnesses: Raffaele Vertunni, 28, farmacista (pharmacist), and Donato Caputi, 26 yo, guardia urbana (urban guard).
Banns were posted on 28 November and 5 December, current year.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2043547
Birth Record No 24: Rosolia Bafunno
Saponara di Grumento (Grumento Nova): 21 April 1893, 10.15 am
Rosa Di Tommaso, 67 yo, contadina (peasant), living in this town, reported that at 10.30 am, on 17 April 1893, at a house in via Peruzzo, No 237, from Caterina Fruguglietti, contadina (peasant), legitimate wife of Antonio Bafunno, contadino, both living in this town. The baby girl who was not presented, was given the name Rosolia.
Rosa Di Tommaso, who registered the birth, in place of the father, had also assisted with the birth. Antonio Bafunno was not able to do so because he was a long way from the town at the time.
The declarant was given an exemption from presenting the baby due to frailty.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2043547
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Re: SPADAFORA, Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy
Omg thank you so much!!!!
this is my great grandparents im so happy that you took the time to find these records for me, and such a nice little story behind it too.
i have so much basis to cover as i have been doing! i hope to find some military records from the year 1922 from grumento nova to help me narrow down who my real great grandfather and my last name should really be! im thankful from the bottom of my heart fr you finding this info
kind regards,
Briana Spadafora (not so Spadafora)
this is my great grandparents im so happy that you took the time to find these records for me, and such a nice little story behind it too.
i have so much basis to cover as i have been doing! i hope to find some military records from the year 1922 from grumento nova to help me narrow down who my real great grandfather and my last name should really be! im thankful from the bottom of my heart fr you finding this info
kind regards,
Briana Spadafora (not so Spadafora)
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Re: SPADAFORA, Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy
Over a 20 month time gap to respond to Angela Grace? Yikes! Not sure what the delay was, but perhaps I can add a piece to the "long dormant" puzzle here...
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043547
Record No. 85: Pasquale Spadafora
Dated 7 Oct 1877, 10:40 AM, Town of Saponara di Grumento, appeared Paolo Spadafora, age 40, cobbler, living in Saponara, declared at 6:30 AM on 5 of the current month (Oct 1877), at a house on "contrada" Peruzzi (no house No. shown), from Maria Michele Latronica, his legitimate wife, living together, was born a male baby given the name Pasquale.
Theres a possbile connection here to my wife's maternal 3x great-grandfather (albeit, apparently, not through blood, i.e., due to the circumstances noted),but only in the event that Paolo's father was also a "Pasquale Spadafora" .
In other words, IF the Pasquale born in 1877 had a grandfather of the same name (a distinct possibility) then there MAY be a connection. My wife has an Annie Teresa Spadafora (from Saponara di Grumento, of course) as a 2x maternal great-grandmother. IN THEORY, this Annie could've been Paolo's younger sister (he being born ca. 1837). Annie herself was born on 26 Jun 1840 to the above mentioned Pasquale and his wife, Rosa Toscano. Annie then married a "Favale" male. Together, they had a female who, in turn married a Rago male. This is my wife mother's surname.
Mark
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043547
Record No. 85: Pasquale Spadafora
Dated 7 Oct 1877, 10:40 AM, Town of Saponara di Grumento, appeared Paolo Spadafora, age 40, cobbler, living in Saponara, declared at 6:30 AM on 5 of the current month (Oct 1877), at a house on "contrada" Peruzzi (no house No. shown), from Maria Michele Latronica, his legitimate wife, living together, was born a male baby given the name Pasquale.
Theres a possbile connection here to my wife's maternal 3x great-grandfather (albeit, apparently, not through blood, i.e., due to the circumstances noted),but only in the event that Paolo's father was also a "Pasquale Spadafora" .
In other words, IF the Pasquale born in 1877 had a grandfather of the same name (a distinct possibility) then there MAY be a connection. My wife has an Annie Teresa Spadafora (from Saponara di Grumento, of course) as a 2x maternal great-grandmother. IN THEORY, this Annie could've been Paolo's younger sister (he being born ca. 1837). Annie herself was born on 26 Jun 1840 to the above mentioned Pasquale and his wife, Rosa Toscano. Annie then married a "Favale" male. Together, they had a female who, in turn married a Rago male. This is my wife mother's surname.
Mark
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Re: SPADAFORA, Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy
You are very welcome for the help. So, working on what we definitely do know, i.e. that your great grandmother was Rosolia Bafunno who married Pasquale Spadafora, here are some more records to take you back a little further on your great grandmother's side. Please also read the previous post here that Mark has written.Breezing23 wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 06:52 Omg thank you so much!!!!
this is my great grandparents im so happy that you took the time to find these records for me, and such a nice little story behind it too.
i have so much basis to cover as i have been doing! i hope to find some military records from the year 1922 from grumento nova to help me narrow down who my real great grandfather and my last name should really be! im thankful from the bottom of my heart fr you finding this info
kind regards,
Briana Spadafora (not so Spadafora)
Marriage record of Rosolia Bafunno's parents:
Marriage Record No 2: Antonio Bafunno and Caterina Fruguglietti
Saponara di Grumento: 10 January 1892, 12.30 pm
Groom: Antonio Bafunno, 19 yo (1873), contadino (farmer), born in Saponara Di Grumento (SDG), residing this town, son of the deceased Francesco Bafunno, and the deceased Rosolia Liucci, who both resided this town when living.
Bride: Caterina Fruguglietti, 17 yo, contadina, born in and residing SDG, daughter of the deceased Giuseppe Fruguglietti, who resided in SDG when living, and of Antonia Caputi, resident of this town.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043547
(I hoped to find Antonio's Birth record but some years are missing. Will take another look though to make sure.)
Here is Caterina Fruguglietti's birth record:
Birth Record No 21: Caterina Fruguglietti, born 13 March 1875, daughter of Giusepparcangelo Fruguglietti, 52 yo, contadino, and Antonia Caputi
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043547
Here is the marriage record of Antonio Bafunno's parents which takes you back another generation:
Marriage Record No 12: Francesco Bafunno and Rosolia Liucci
Saponara di Grumento: 31 May 1857
Groom: Francesco Bafunno, 25 yo, contadino, born and living SDG, son of Domenico Bafunno, contadino, and Mariangiola Pricolo, living SDG.
Bride: Rosolia Liucci, 20 yo, born and living SDG, daughter of deceased Francesco Liucci, contadino, who lived in Sdg when living, and of Marianna Fruguglietti, living in Saponara.
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 6.jpg.html
Will see what else I can find.
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Re: SPADAFORA, Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy
Marriage Record No 32: Giuseppe Arcangelo Fruguglietti and Antonia Caputi
Saponara di Grumento: 27 November 1858
Groom: Laviero? Carlo Giuseppe Arcangelo Fruguglietti, 36 yo, contadino, born and living in Saponara, son of the deceased Lorenzo Fruguglietti, and of the deceased Bernarda di Vietri.
Bride: Antonia Caputi, 20 yo, born and living Saponara, daughter of the deceased Vincenzo Caputi, contadino, and of the deceased Caterina La Grutta.
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Angela
Saponara di Grumento: 27 November 1858
Groom: Laviero? Carlo Giuseppe Arcangelo Fruguglietti, 36 yo, contadino, born and living in Saponara, son of the deceased Lorenzo Fruguglietti, and of the deceased Bernarda di Vietri.
Bride: Antonia Caputi, 20 yo, born and living Saponara, daughter of the deceased Vincenzo Caputi, contadino, and of the deceased Caterina La Grutta.
http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
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Re: SPADAFORA, Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy
The processetti (marriage attachments) for Giuseppe Arcangelo Fruguglietti and Antonia Caputi begin here: http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... 8.jpg.html
Amongst them you will find:
Birth Extract of the groom: http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Birth Extract of the Bride: http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Death Extract of the father of the Groom (Lorenzo Fruguglietti): http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Death Extract of the mother of the Groom: Maria Bernarda di Vietri: http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Death Extract of the paternal grandfather of the groom (Giuseppe Fruguglietti): http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Angela
Amongst them you will find:
Birth Extract of the groom: http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Birth Extract of the Bride: http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Death Extract of the father of the Groom (Lorenzo Fruguglietti): http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Death Extract of the mother of the Groom: Maria Bernarda di Vietri: http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Death Extract of the paternal grandfather of the groom (Giuseppe Fruguglietti): http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
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Re: SPADAFORA, Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy
Continuing on with the attachments:
Death Extract of the father of the bride (Vincenzo Caputi): http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Death Extract of the mother of the bride (Caterina La Grutta): http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Death Extract of the paternal grandfather of the bride (Domenico Caputi/o): http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Death Extract of Rosa Pricolo, first wife of the groom: http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
It would be really good to have the above extracts translated. You could post them separately in the "translations" forum and we can just chip away at them. It would be good to look for the originals as often the extracts have errors in them. (I noticed there was something not quite right with one of the records, but I've run out of time now so haven't got time to take a closer look.) You should have the records translated.
Angela
Death Extract of the father of the bride (Vincenzo Caputi): http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Death Extract of the mother of the bride (Caterina La Grutta): http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Death Extract of the paternal grandfather of the bride (Domenico Caputi/o): http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
Death Extract of Rosa Pricolo, first wife of the groom: http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0
It would be really good to have the above extracts translated. You could post them separately in the "translations" forum and we can just chip away at them. It would be good to look for the originals as often the extracts have errors in them. (I noticed there was something not quite right with one of the records, but I've run out of time now so haven't got time to take a closer look.) You should have the records translated.
Angela
Re: SPADAFORA, Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy
This may be the first child born to Pasquale Spadafora and Rosalia Bafunno
A daughter, Maria, born 6 September (#56)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=2043547
T.
A daughter, Maria, born 6 September (#56)
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Re: SPADAFORA, Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy
Wow, wow and wow, there is no talk in my family dating back before my grandfather Isidore (Rosalia Bafunno and Pasquale’s Spadaforas (not real blood son of Pasquale) but is very interesting to know as Isidore was very quiet about his upbringing, all this information almost makes me cry, just even knowing a slight glimps of my family history on my dads side is quite the rollercoaster, such a small town and loving how far back all this family lived and stayed in Grumento Nova, I’ll have a look through the records and I can have them translated by my father who speaks and can read in fluent Italian.
I can not thank you all enough! Back 2 years ago I gave up as I just thought how would anyone know anything about this little family in such a small town but low and behold there’s heaps of info out there! I’m getting quite excited by the day to know more and more, I still would love to see a record of who went to war in 1922 from Grumento Nova to narrow down to find out who truely was my true great grandfather if someone can direct me on who to email etc I can definitely do some footwork with that, love to you all, your information have changed my life and can’t wait to sit with the cousins and let them know of there post past too over a bowl of Italian pasta
I can not thank you all enough! Back 2 years ago I gave up as I just thought how would anyone know anything about this little family in such a small town but low and behold there’s heaps of info out there! I’m getting quite excited by the day to know more and more, I still would love to see a record of who went to war in 1922 from Grumento Nova to narrow down to find out who truely was my true great grandfather if someone can direct me on who to email etc I can definitely do some footwork with that, love to you all, your information have changed my life and can’t wait to sit with the cousins and let them know of there post past too over a bowl of Italian pasta
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Re: SPADAFORA, Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy
Very happy to have helped you along your journey. All the best to you, and feel free to come back, as there is still a more information there to take you back further on your great grandmother's side.
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Re: SPADAFORA, Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy
Some exceptional work by AngelaGrace here (and you too, T).
Breezing23, I found this 2012 FamilyTree article, which might give you some leads:
https://www.familytreemagazine.com/prem ... y-records/
One of the hotlinks takes you to Family Search's Italian Archives and Libraries page. From there, you have numerous other links to choose from. Clicking on the Military Records hotline (far right) takes you here:
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/It ... ry_Records
Unfortunately, the Family History Library seemingly has not yet microfilmed Potenza. However, there are numerous "External" links that may yet lead you to the desired "liste di leva".
Give it a whirl... and good luck.
Mark
Breezing23, I found this 2012 FamilyTree article, which might give you some leads:
https://www.familytreemagazine.com/prem ... y-records/
One of the hotlinks takes you to Family Search's Italian Archives and Libraries page. From there, you have numerous other links to choose from. Clicking on the Military Records hotline (far right) takes you here:
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/It ... ry_Records
Unfortunately, the Family History Library seemingly has not yet microfilmed Potenza. However, there are numerous "External" links that may yet lead you to the desired "liste di leva".
Give it a whirl... and good luck.
Mark
Re: SPADAFORA, Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy
Grazie!mjclayton1 wrote: ↑18 Jul 2018, 08:02 Some exceptional work by AngelaGrace here (and you too, T).
Mark
... and, yes, great work by AngelaGrace!
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Re: SPADAFORA, Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy
Thank you both for your kind thoughts. I am encouraged!Tessa78 wrote: ↑18 Jul 2018, 15:18Grazie!mjclayton1 wrote: ↑18 Jul 2018, 08:02 Some exceptional work by AngelaGrace here (and you too, T).
Mark
... and, yes, great work by AngelaGrace!
T.
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Re: SPADAFORA, Grumento Nova, Potenza, Basilicata, Italy
yes both of you are amazing!.. I love learning about my past now, all thanks to a work friend who does this as a hobby but of course his family history has nothing to do with italy (DANG!)
One final favour, I have my Nonnos (Isidoro spadaforas) birth certificate which states "no father" but i dont have a birth record of him which might give me a little bit of insight also, for example who was present when he was born etc you never know
If someone could find that for me i will be forever greatful!! honestly the closer i get to this mystery even if i never solve it it will always interest me
Grazie!
One final favour, I have my Nonnos (Isidoro spadaforas) birth certificate which states "no father" but i dont have a birth record of him which might give me a little bit of insight also, for example who was present when he was born etc you never know
If someone could find that for me i will be forever greatful!! honestly the closer i get to this mystery even if i never solve it it will always interest me
Grazie!