Marriage Sergi-Sapienza
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Marriage Sergi-Sapienza
Looking for info on marriage of grandparents Salvatore Sergi and grandmother Lucia Sapienza in or near Viagrande sometime between 1909-1914.
Salvatore was born in Aci Bonaccorsi August 15,1876. Brothers Francesco and Guiseppe. Sisters Stefana and Angela. Emigrated to America in 1905. Father was Dominic and mother possibly Rose Cavilli. Was married previously to Carmela Marziotta or Mazzotti.
Lucia was born September 23,1889 in Viagrande. Emigrated to America in 1914.
Of course any other info would be great also. I am looking for their birth certificates as well.
Salvatore was born in Aci Bonaccorsi August 15,1876. Brothers Francesco and Guiseppe. Sisters Stefana and Angela. Emigrated to America in 1905. Father was Dominic and mother possibly Rose Cavilli. Was married previously to Carmela Marziotta or Mazzotti.
Lucia was born September 23,1889 in Viagrande. Emigrated to America in 1914.
Of course any other info would be great also. I am looking for their birth certificates as well.
Re: Marriage Sergi-Sapienza
Hi,
maybe something don't matching. .
Salvatore Sergi came the second time in USA on 1912, and he was widowed:
First Name : Salvatore
Last Name : Sergi
Nationality : Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence : Viagrande, Sicily
Date of Arrival : February 23rd, 1912
Age at Arrival : 35y
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Widowed
Ship of Travel : Berlin
Port of Departure : Palermo
Manifest Line Number : 0020
http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/p ... 5pZmVzdCI7
father Domenico in Viagrande and joining to his Brother Giuseppe in Lawrence, Mass. (if I read well).. so the second marriage it is after 23th feb 1912.
Here another trip and his birthplace is Aci Bonaccorsi, now....
First Name : Salvatore
Last Name : Sergi
Nationality : Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence : Lawrence, MA
Date of Arrival : June 3rd, 1923
Age at Arrival : 46y
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Married
Ship of Travel : Giuseppe Verdi
Port of Departure : Palermo
Manifest Line Number : 0009
mother Rosa Cavalli in Aci Bonaccorsi.
http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/p ... 5pZmVzdCI7
the Salvatore first son, Domenico Sergi, he was born in Viagrande on 10 March #24 and the mother was Carmela Mazziotta
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2043496
and came in USA on 1920
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1923995
Well Salvatore Sergi and Carmela Mazziotta married in Viagrande on 15 May 1900 #25: He was born in Aci Bonaccorsi but residing in Viagrande:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2043496
so now we can be sure abt the birthplace that is Aci Bonaccorsi.
Abt Lucia Sapienza, I cannot find her arrival , and I cannot find her name in the decade index of Viagrande
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2043496
(from 1886 to 1895)
I searched the Birth because sometimes are marriage note at bottom....
for bad luck no civil records for both the towns, after 1910, and no previous of 1890, just the decade idex, but I believe that the Church records are availables..
But maybe they married in USA, it could be possible?
Regards,
suanj
maybe something don't matching. .
Salvatore Sergi came the second time in USA on 1912, and he was widowed:
First Name : Salvatore
Last Name : Sergi
Nationality : Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence : Viagrande, Sicily
Date of Arrival : February 23rd, 1912
Age at Arrival : 35y
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Widowed
Ship of Travel : Berlin
Port of Departure : Palermo
Manifest Line Number : 0020
http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/p ... 5pZmVzdCI7
father Domenico in Viagrande and joining to his Brother Giuseppe in Lawrence, Mass. (if I read well).. so the second marriage it is after 23th feb 1912.
Here another trip and his birthplace is Aci Bonaccorsi, now....
First Name : Salvatore
Last Name : Sergi
Nationality : Italy, Italian South
Last Place of Residence : Lawrence, MA
Date of Arrival : June 3rd, 1923
Age at Arrival : 46y
Gender : Male
Marital Status : Married
Ship of Travel : Giuseppe Verdi
Port of Departure : Palermo
Manifest Line Number : 0009
mother Rosa Cavalli in Aci Bonaccorsi.
http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/p ... 5pZmVzdCI7
the Salvatore first son, Domenico Sergi, he was born in Viagrande on 10 March #24 and the mother was Carmela Mazziotta
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2043496
and came in USA on 1920
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1923995
Well Salvatore Sergi and Carmela Mazziotta married in Viagrande on 15 May 1900 #25: He was born in Aci Bonaccorsi but residing in Viagrande:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2043496
so now we can be sure abt the birthplace that is Aci Bonaccorsi.
Abt Lucia Sapienza, I cannot find her arrival , and I cannot find her name in the decade index of Viagrande
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2043496
(from 1886 to 1895)
I searched the Birth because sometimes are marriage note at bottom....
for bad luck no civil records for both the towns, after 1910, and no previous of 1890, just the decade idex, but I believe that the Church records are availables..
But maybe they married in USA, it could be possible?
Regards,
suanj
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Re: Marriage Sergi-Sapienza
Hi Suanj Happy Holidays
Baptism record of Salvatore Sergi
1876 Aug 14th in the town of Aci Bonaccorsi the church of Santa Maria dell'Indirizzo baptism of Salvatore Sergi son of Domenico Sergi and Rosa Cavilli he was born on the 13th
PG LINK TO RECORD
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cat=681670
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Baptism record of Salvatore Sergi
1876 Aug 14th in the town of Aci Bonaccorsi the church of Santa Maria dell'Indirizzo baptism of Salvatore Sergi son of Domenico Sergi and Rosa Cavilli he was born on the 13th
PG LINK TO RECORD
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cat=681670
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Re: Marriage Sergi-Sapienza
Hi Adelfio,
Happy Holidays you also!
The mother maiden name maybe was Cavalli right... I found just the Death record of Lucia...:
Lucy Sergi
United States Social Security Death Index
Age 93
Given Name Lucy
Surname Sergi
Birth Date 23 Sep 1889
State Massachusetts
Last Place of Residence Essex, Massachusetts
Previous Residence Postal Code 01844
Event Date Oct 1982
I wish to find her arrival, because by ship's manifest we can know if she was single or married by a proxy marriage...
Regards,
suanj
Happy Holidays you also!
The mother maiden name maybe was Cavalli right... I found just the Death record of Lucia...:
Lucy Sergi
United States Social Security Death Index
Age 93
Given Name Lucy
Surname Sergi
Birth Date 23 Sep 1889
State Massachusetts
Last Place of Residence Essex, Massachusetts
Previous Residence Postal Code 01844
Event Date Oct 1982
I wish to find her arrival, because by ship's manifest we can know if she was single or married by a proxy marriage...
Regards,
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Re: Marriage Sergi-Sapienza
I write again the arrival of 1912, because I searched if in the ship's manifest was Lucia, maybe.. instead I found just Stefana Sergi, little sister of Salvatore. Line 20 Salvatore, line 26 Stefana:
Salvatore Sergi
New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island)
Given Name Salvatore
Surname Sergi
Last Place of Residence Viagrande, Sicily
Event Date 23 Feb 1912
Age 35y
Nationality Italy, Italian South
Departure Port Palermo
Arrival Port New York
Gender Male
Marital Status W
Ship Name Berlin
http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/p ... 5pZmVzdCI7
and in the trip of 1923, the wife was at home, in USA:
http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/p ... 5pZmVzdCI7
The mystery is that I cannot find Lucia arrival..
suanj
Salvatore Sergi
New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island)
Given Name Salvatore
Surname Sergi
Last Place of Residence Viagrande, Sicily
Event Date 23 Feb 1912
Age 35y
Nationality Italy, Italian South
Departure Port Palermo
Arrival Port New York
Gender Male
Marital Status W
Ship Name Berlin
http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/p ... 5pZmVzdCI7
and in the trip of 1923, the wife was at home, in USA:
http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/p ... 5pZmVzdCI7
The mystery is that I cannot find Lucia arrival..
suanj
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Re: Marriage Sergi-Sapienza
Mystery solved:
Salvatore made another trip on 1914, and travelling also the wife Lucia, 34 old on 1914, so born abt on 1880, if the age on the ship's manifest is right, and little son Luigi, 9 old. Salvatore left father Domenico in Viagrande. Joining to Brother Francesco in Lawrence, Mass., and all seeming born in Viagrande, but we know that Salvatore was born in Aci Bonaccorsi
Salvatore Sergi
Massachusetts, Boston Passenger Lists
Name Salvatore Sergi
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 1914
Event Place Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States
Gender Male
Age 37
Birth Year (Estimated) 1877
Birthplace Italy
Ship Name Canopic
pag 1 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1923995
pag 2 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1923995
Luigi Sergi was born in Viagrande on 9 Nov 1904 #109. The informant was the midwife, because Salvatore was far from the town
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2043496
suanj
Salvatore made another trip on 1914, and travelling also the wife Lucia, 34 old on 1914, so born abt on 1880, if the age on the ship's manifest is right, and little son Luigi, 9 old. Salvatore left father Domenico in Viagrande. Joining to Brother Francesco in Lawrence, Mass., and all seeming born in Viagrande, but we know that Salvatore was born in Aci Bonaccorsi
Salvatore Sergi
Massachusetts, Boston Passenger Lists
Name Salvatore Sergi
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 1914
Event Place Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States
Gender Male
Age 37
Birth Year (Estimated) 1877
Birthplace Italy
Ship Name Canopic
pag 1 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1923995
pag 2 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=1923995
Luigi Sergi was born in Viagrande on 9 Nov 1904 #109. The informant was the midwife, because Salvatore was far from the town
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2043496
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Re: Marriage Sergi-Sapienza
So Salvatore married in Viagrande I believe on 1914.
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Re: Marriage Sergi-Sapienza
She entered America March 9, 1914 in Boston. She was traveling with Salvatore and Luigi. She is listed as wife. The family story goes that Salvatore's first wife, Carmela, died in America. Salvatore returned to Italy married Lucia and brought her back to America.
Tessa has been helping me quite a bit. We have not had any luck as of yet with the marriage of Salvatore and Lucia. I have been a bit busy to followup with her suggestions. I plan on doing that soon. I am not sure if I posted the link correctly to her arrival below.
http://interactive.ancestry.com/8745/MA ... dit/record
Tessa has been helping me quite a bit. We have not had any luck as of yet with the marriage of Salvatore and Lucia. I have been a bit busy to followup with her suggestions. I plan on doing that soon. I am not sure if I posted the link correctly to her arrival below.
http://interactive.ancestry.com/8745/MA ... dit/record
Re: Marriage Sergi-Sapienza
Hi,
yes I found the arrival, I posted thge link in my previous reply.
And maybe you are right abt Carmela; in effects I found a arrival abt Carmela MAZZIOTTA:
Carmela Mazziotta
New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island)
Given Name Carmela
Surname Mazziotta
Last Place of Residence Via Grande
Event Date 30 Jul 1906
Age 29y
Nationality Italy, Italian South
Departure Port Naples
Arrival Port New York
Gender Female
Marital Status M
Ship Name Cretic
joining at husband Salvatore Sergi, Lawrence, Mass.; no children maybe remained in Viagrande
http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/p ... 5pZmVzdCI7...
However I don't found her Death record in USA... I believe she came bach from children... Also I believe she died around 1912 and for that Salvatore went in Italy,even for legally entrust the children's custody to his parents. In meantime is very possible that the his parents searched for a new wife, and no easy, because Salvatore was widowed with two children and the new wife would have had to agree to leave the country... and when Salvatore back in Italy on 1914, he married, because on the ship's manifest is wrote "wife", it are a a stamp with a statement about her legal US entry, verified in 1928.
Lucia and Salvatore married in Viagrande on 1914, or on 1913, because on the trip of 1914, Salvatore declares that he was in USA from 1904 to 1913..... Instead Lucia and little Luigi never in USA....
Hoping good luck abt the marriage record.. I will try, if possible, regards,
suanj
yes I found the arrival, I posted thge link in my previous reply.
And maybe you are right abt Carmela; in effects I found a arrival abt Carmela MAZZIOTTA:
Carmela Mazziotta
New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island)
Given Name Carmela
Surname Mazziotta
Last Place of Residence Via Grande
Event Date 30 Jul 1906
Age 29y
Nationality Italy, Italian South
Departure Port Naples
Arrival Port New York
Gender Female
Marital Status M
Ship Name Cretic
joining at husband Salvatore Sergi, Lawrence, Mass.; no children maybe remained in Viagrande
http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/p ... 5pZmVzdCI7...
However I don't found her Death record in USA... I believe she came bach from children... Also I believe she died around 1912 and for that Salvatore went in Italy,even for legally entrust the children's custody to his parents. In meantime is very possible that the his parents searched for a new wife, and no easy, because Salvatore was widowed with two children and the new wife would have had to agree to leave the country... and when Salvatore back in Italy on 1914, he married, because on the ship's manifest is wrote "wife", it are a a stamp with a statement about her legal US entry, verified in 1928.
Lucia and Salvatore married in Viagrande on 1914, or on 1913, because on the trip of 1914, Salvatore declares that he was in USA from 1904 to 1913..... Instead Lucia and little Luigi never in USA....
Hoping good luck abt the marriage record.. I will try, if possible, regards,
suanj
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Re: Marriage Sergi-Sapienza
I believe that it is possible that Lucia was actually the sister of his brother's wife. His brother Giuseppe, who was in America, was married to a Giuseppina Sapienza.
He actually had four children with his wife Carmela. They were Luigi, Rosa, Dominic, and Giovanna.
Buon Natale
He actually had four children with his wife Carmela. They were Luigi, Rosa, Dominic, and Giovanna.
Buon Natale
Re: Marriage Sergi-Sapienza
Salvatore had also another sister named Concetta: line 18 left page of baptism index Santa Maria dell'Idria Church in ViagrandeSalvatore was born in Aci Bonaccorsi August 15,1876. Brothers Francesco and Guiseppe. Sisters Stefana and Angela. Emigrated to America in 1905. Father was Dominic and mother possibly Rose Cavilli. Was married previously to Carmela Marziotta or Mazzotti.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cat=650690
as a well Francesco and Stefana was born in Viagrande also...
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Re: Marriage Sergi-Sapienza
However the Church records are no helpfuls, because arriving until 1910.. and Salvatore and Lucia married after.. I believe that, the better way is to ask- in the Viagrande Town Hall, Civil records office- the marriage certificate and the 1914 "circa " is enough for the clerk, because have spouses names and abt Salvatore also parent's names...
here the webpage of right office:
http://156.54.128.62/viagrande/zf/index ... ia/96/id/9
and email address. Helpful form letters in italian language: http://www.circolocalabrese.org/genealo ... -index.asp
Best regards,
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here the webpage of right office:
http://156.54.128.62/viagrande/zf/index ... ia/96/id/9
and email address. Helpful form letters in italian language: http://www.circolocalabrese.org/genealo ... -index.asp
Best regards,
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Re: Marriage Sergi-Sapienza
ok, so had 4 children... it is very possible, two brothers married two sisters... I am so sorry that no civil records on line after 1910, really it would be a nice Christmas gift for you, to find the marriage record on line. But for now is no possible. The other way is to write in the Commune, as I suggested in my previous post.bostonbaked wrote:I believe that it is possible that Lucia was actually the sister of his brother's wife. His brother Giuseppe, who was in America, was married to a Giuseppina Sapienza.
He actually had four children with his wife Carmela. They were Luigi, Rosa, Dominic, and Giovanna.
Buon Natale
Buon Natale to you also!
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Re: Marriage Sergi-Sapienza
I did find her death record. She died in child birth on January 8, 1910 in Lawrence, Massachusetts. With Tessa's help I put together letters to both Viagrande and Aci Bonnacorsi.suanj wrote:Hi,
yes I found the arrival, I posted thge link in my previous reply.
And maybe you are right abt Carmela; in effects I found a arrival abt Carmela MAZZIOTTA:
Carmela Mazziotta
New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island)
Given Name Carmela
Surname Mazziotta
Last Place of Residence Via Grande
Event Date 30 Jul 1906
Age 29y
Nationality Italy, Italian South
Departure Port Naples
Arrival Port New York
Gender Female
Marital Status M
Ship Name Cretic
joining at husband Salvatore Sergi, Lawrence, Mass.; no children maybe remained in Viagrande
http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/p ... 5pZmVzdCI7...
However I don't found her Death record in USA... I believe she came bach from children... Also I believe she died around 1912 and for that Salvatore went in Italy,even for legally entrust the children's custody to his parents. In meantime is very possible that the his parents searched for a new wife, and no easy, because Salvatore was widowed with two children and the new wife would have had to agree to leave the country... and when Salvatore back in Italy on 1914, he married, because on the ship's manifest is wrote "wife", it are a a stamp with a statement about her legal US entry, verified in 1928.
Lucia and Salvatore married in Viagrande on 1914, or on 1913, because on the trip of 1914, Salvatore declares that he was in USA from 1904 to 1913..... Instead Lucia and little Luigi never in USA....
Hoping good luck abt the marriage record.. I will try, if possible, regards,
suanj
http://interactive.ancestry.com/2101/41 ... 0065/facts
Thanks, Mike
Re: Marriage Sergi-Sapienza
Ok Mike,
after your reply, I searched and now I found the Carmela death... and child also...
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1463156
Best regards,
suanj
after your reply, I searched and now I found the Carmela death... and child also...
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... cc=1463156
Best regards,
suanj
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