Lauri Family Birth Records Search Striking Out

[mkukiela]

I am trying to search for the Lauri family from Santa Lucia, Messina, Sicily. My 2nd great-grandmother Giuseppa Lauri was purportedly born in this town in 1852. However, when I search on Familysearch.org it shows there is (available online) the registration book for the year 1852:
https://familysearch.org/search/image/i ... %3D1935770

However, when I choose "Nati 1852 (Registro 337) from the above website, it redirects me to:

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... iewsIndex=

When I get through the selection of the correct town and record type the only years available are 1861-1865.
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ucia/Nati/

Can anyone offer any suggestions on how I might find the 1852 birth records for the town of Santa Lucia, Messina, Sicily.

Mark

[Tessa78]

Here is the link to the 1852 births in Santa Lucia, Messina.
The index is at the end of the book.

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... /1852/337/

T.

[mkukiela]

Thank You Tessa78,

Unfortunately, I don't see her name in the book. Can you help me understand how you found the 1852 records on this site?

Mark

[carubia]

How do you know that she was born in 1852 and not, say, 1851? What is the source of your information on her birth? Death records, for example, are often inaccurate. Italian marriage records are the most reliable, but even with them, if you know only someone's age, that gives you 2 possible years in which that person could've been born.

[mkukiela]

I am going by a distant relative's data.
My 2nd great grandmother Giuseppa Lauri Musicao's death certificate shows a different age than her burial records and neither one of those years match her Ellis Island immigration record. One of the main reasons for my quest is the lack of even a grave marker for her at our local cemetery. I am hoping to remedy this.
This Lauri cousin has data she promises to share with me in the future, and I was hoping to find something myself. I noticed in her family tree she has St Lucca or St Lucia for Giuseppa's baptism on 13 Jun 1852 and was born in Messina 11 Jun 1852. This is the first time I had seen a definitive date for her and I was hoping to independently verify this before I order the cemetery marker. Looking at towns in Messina, I noticed Santa Lucia...so I am not sure if Santa Lucia is the church she was baptized in, or the town. Then I see a Massa Santa Lucia and a Santa Lucia del Mela...so perhaps I will just wait until my cousin has time.

[Tessa78]

Mark

Can you post the arrival manifest link, or an image?

In Sicily, the spelling of the surname could be LAURIA (with an ending "a")---OR --- LORIA

I have checked the births in Santa Lucia, Messina for years 1849-1853, and I do not find her.

T.

[carubia]

There are other similar names in Sicily, such as Lauro, Laurini, Laurino, and Lauricella.

Edit to add:
I just checked my tree (on Ancestry) and found 11 people with the surname Lauri from the city Messina. A couple of them moved to Ribera and married there in the 1880s. One of those people with the surname Lauri is a Giuseppa Lauri born on 11 Jun 1852! So I guess I have your ancestor in my tree. She was the sister-in-law of the 1st cousin of the husband of my 2nd cousin 3 times removed.

[adelfio]

Birth record of Giuseppa Lauri
INDEX#89
1852 June 11 in the town of Messina birth of Giuseppa Lauri daughter of Paolo Lauri age 26 and his wife Gaetana Sergi age 24 (She was baptized in the church of Santa Lucia on the 13th)

PG LINK TO RECORD CLICK ON IMAGE TO MAGNIFY
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

Marty

[carubia]

Here is her profile in my tree:


https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/pe ... 9516/facts

I don't know much about her since I was more interested in her siblings.

[carubia]

Here is the marriage record of her parents:

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... 7.jpg.html

Paolo Lauri and Gaetana Sergi married on 1 Jun 1846 in Messina.

[carubia]

I see from someone else's tree on Ancestry that Giuseppa's husband Giuseppe Musicao was from Siculiana. I've done quite a bit research there but hadn't come across the name before, so I just did a search and found that 3 Musicao siblings moved to Siculiana (from Cospicua, Malta) and married there to local people in the 1830s and '40s, so that information on him may be correct. I'll look into this (it should be pretty easy) and see how much I can find for that family in Siculiana. Doing research in Malta is another matter....

[mkukiela]

Thank you everyone for your help. Yes, I just returned from Sicily a couple weeks ago visiting Siculiana and Agrigento to find more information. In Siculiana, I finally found my great-grandmother Caterina Musicao's birth record. Upon finding she was born in 1885 to parents "nonconiugata" I started looking for (her parents) Giuseppe Musicao and Giuseppa Lauri's marriage record. Their son Paolo was born in 1890 in Agrigento and (according to the record) they were married at this point so I was searching 1885 - 1890 marriage records in both towns. I had no luck in Siculiana, but I did find a Vincenzo Lauri married to Caermela Contino in 1890 with his father living in Caltanisetta and mother Gaetana Sergi "in vita" Porto Empedecole.
This was the first Lauri I had found information about in the Agrigento area, and on my 2nd great grandmother's death certificate it lists Paolo as her father but left the mother's name blank. Since this appeared to be a close match I put it in my family tree and received a leaf from a relative in Maryland and our Ancestry DNA confirmed we are 5th to 8th cousins. So I know I am much closer to a potential answer at this point...just trying to document the particulars.

[mkukiela]

Mark

Can you post the arrival manifest link, or an image?

In Sicily, the spelling of the surname could be LAURIA (with an ending "a")---OR --- LORIA

I have checked the births in Santa Lucia, Messina for years 1849-1853, and I do not find her.

T.

Tessa, it's weird...the ship manifest actually looks like "Sauri" at least that is how the Ellis Island archives had it listed. To make matters more confusing it listed Giuseppe as Sauri and Giuseppa as Musicao but then there us a line through the M or F so there was some confusion on their ship manifest record.

[mkukiela]

Here is her profile in my tree:


https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/pe ... 9516/facts

I don't know much about her since I was more interested in her siblings.

Yes Malcom, thank you...I linked this information to my ancestry tree a week or so ago. Perhaps we are related...

[mkukiela]

Birth record of Giuseppa Lauri
INDEX#89
1852 June 11 in the town of Messina birth of Giuseppa Lauri daughter of Paolo Lauri age 26 and his wife Gaetana Sergi age 24 (She was baptized in the church of Santa Lucia on the 13th)

PG LINK TO RECORD CLICK ON IMAGE TO MAGNIFY
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0

Marty

WOW!
Thank you so much!