Please help us read the Marriage of Giuseppe Musciotto & Maria Suppa
Please help us read the Marriage of Giuseppe Musciotto & Maria Suppa
Hi, please help us (Paula Musciotto) read a Marriage record from Geraci Siculo. The online record is blocked except at the family history center.
It is the 1836 Marriage of Giuseppe Musciotto & Maria Suppa, #1, 31 Jan 1836
I've attached a copy of the record also.
Thanks
Gary
It is the 1836 Marriage of Giuseppe Musciotto & Maria Suppa, #1, 31 Jan 1836
I've attached a copy of the record also.
Thanks
Gary
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Re: Please help us read the Marriage of Giuseppe Musciotto & Maria Suppa
Groom: Giuseppe Musciotti, shepherd, 23yo, son of Silvestro, aged 56 and Rosaria Calleri aged 52
Bride: Maria Suppa, 16yo, daughter of dec Gaetano and dec Grazia Murgia
Bride: Maria Suppa, 16yo, daughter of dec Gaetano and dec Grazia Murgia
Re: Please help us read the Marriage of Giuseppe Musciotto & Maria Suppa
to add to Livio's translation-
The groom had the consent of both of his parents. Since the bride's parents and paternal grandfather were deceased, and she was a minor, she had the consent of the Family Council dated Dec 11, 1835. Comprising the family council would be relatives such as uncles and cousins, or even grandfathers, if alive. If there were no family members alive, then the council could be made up of neighbors or close friends of the family. The members of the council would convene to discuss the merits or shortcomings of the prospective spouse (was this person worthy of contracting marriage with their relative?; were they of good moral character?; if a woman, did she have a sufficient dowry to bring to the marriage? etc.). If the council members were in agreement and voted yes, then consent was given to the minor, so that the marriage could proceed.
Erudita
The groom had the consent of both of his parents. Since the bride's parents and paternal grandfather were deceased, and she was a minor, she had the consent of the Family Council dated Dec 11, 1835. Comprising the family council would be relatives such as uncles and cousins, or even grandfathers, if alive. If there were no family members alive, then the council could be made up of neighbors or close friends of the family. The members of the council would convene to discuss the merits or shortcomings of the prospective spouse (was this person worthy of contracting marriage with their relative?; were they of good moral character?; if a woman, did she have a sufficient dowry to bring to the marriage? etc.). If the council members were in agreement and voted yes, then consent was given to the minor, so that the marriage could proceed.
Erudita
Re: Please help us read the Marriage of Giuseppe Musciotto & Maria Suppa
Thank you so very much Livio & Erudita. We so very much appreciate the translation and explanation of what was going on.
May I ask a question ? Does the record indicate what street they each lived on ? Paula wants to go back to the town and visit the residences if possible.
Gary
May I ask a question ? Does the record indicate what street they each lived on ? Paula wants to go back to the town and visit the residences if possible.
Gary
Re: Please help us read the Marriage of Giuseppe Musciotto & Maria Suppa
His famiy-Rua di Santo Rocco
Her family-Rua di San Michele
The street names may have changed. I don't see them listed here
https://www.tuttocitta.it/mappa/geraci- ... aci-siculo
Her family-Rua di San Michele
The street names may have changed. I don't see them listed here
https://www.tuttocitta.it/mappa/geraci- ... aci-siculo
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Giuseppe lived in Via San Rocco, and Maria in Via San Michele
The document says Rua Santo Rocco and Rua san Michele. Rua = Via = Street
The document says Rua Santo Rocco and Rua san Michele. Rua = Via = Street
Re: Please help us read the Marriage of Giuseppe Musciotto & Maria Suppa
Thank you so very much Livio & Erudita.
Gary
Gary
Re: Please help us read the Marriage of Giuseppe Musciotto & Maria Suppa
Livioliviomoreno wrote: 01 Nov 2017, 12:49 Giuseppe lived in Via San Rocco, and Maria in Via San Michele
The document says Rua Santo Rocco and Rua san Michele. Rua = Via = Street
The word in the document is clearly Rua and not Via. And yes, in Sicilian dialect, Rua, with a grave accent over the u, means strada or via
see p. 369 of the link below
https://books.google.com/books?id=LOtDA ... ua&f=false
I do see via San Rocco on the current map
this should be the correct link to the current street map
https://www.tuttocitta.it/mappa/elenco- ... aci-siculo
Re: Please help us read the Marriage of Giuseppe Musciotto & Maria Suppa
Thank you again Erudita 
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Eruditaerudita74 wrote: 01 Nov 2017, 13:03Livioliviomoreno wrote: 01 Nov 2017, 12:49 Giuseppe lived in Via San Rocco, and Maria in Via San Michele
The document says Rua Santo Rocco and Rua san Michele. Rua = Via = Street
The word in the document is clearly Rua and not Via. And yes, in Sicilian dialect, Rua, with a grave accent over the u, means strada or via
see p. 369 of the link below
https://books.google.com/books?id=LOtDA ... ua&f=false
I do see via San Rocco on the current map
this should be the correct link to the current street map
https://www.tuttocitta.it/mappa/elenco- ... aci-siculo
thanks for the link that confirms what I wrote: The document says Rua Santo Rocco and Rua san Michele. Rua = Via = Street
Re: Please help us read the Marriage of Giuseppe Musciotto & Maria Suppa
You're very welcome, Gary and Livio.
Erudita
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Re: Please help us read the Marriage of Giuseppe Musciotto & Maria Iuppa
Just correcting the spelling of the bride's surname, in case anyone else is researching this family.liviomoreno wrote: 01 Nov 2017, 08:36 Groom: Giuseppe Musciotti, shepherd, 23yo, son of Silvestro, aged 56 and Rosaria Calleri aged 52
Bride: Maria Iuppa, 16yo, daughter of dec Gaetano and dec Grazia Murgia
Angela
