Brazilian looking for his great-great-grandfather

[marcelmangione]

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Here is the link to the Publication of Marriage Banns in Family Search
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=367545

Here is the image for the link on Ancestry for the Publication of Banns
It is the Book of Pubblicazione di Matrimonio in 1874
https://s22.postimg.cc/5naqfq5sh/Sciangula1.jpg

Did Salvatore die in Brazil?

Happy to help!

T.

Nice! Yes familysearch I could enter.

But this other link I couldnt: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/18 ... 8298-00765

Is it the same image?

Salvatore died in Italy I think, because Stefana came to brasil alone in 1948 (I think it was after his dead.... to see her sons...)

As we can see in the only document I have of her (passport): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VkDP1I ... sp=sharing

[Tessa78]

Yes, they are the same image.

...and I am glad the information we found for you agrees with the passport information for Stefana Mangione.

Here is the death act of Salvatore Sciangula in 1935 in Raffadali
#33 - dated 26 January 1835
The death was declared by Giuseppe Di Rosa, 53, farmer; and by Salvatore Lo Mascolo, 22, farmer, both residing in Raffadali
At 10:30 PM yesterday (the 25th) at the house in Via Piano Progresso #27, died Salvatore Sciangula, age 82, farmer residing and born in Raffadali; son of deceased Francesco, a farmer, and of deceased Carolina Moscato, housewife, both residing in Raffadali in their lifetimes. He was the husband of Stefana Mangione.
Witnesses to the record: Antonino Fiore, 28, farmer; and Antonino Gulisano, 26, farmer.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Here is a daughter born to Salvatore Sciangula and Stefana Mangione in 1877
#178 - dated 8 June 1877
Father: Salvatore Sciangula, 25, shoemaker residing in Raffadali
Mother: Stefana Mangione, his wife residing with him
Child born at 9 AM on the 7th of the current month at the house in Sant'Antonio.
She was given the name MARIA FILOMENA CAROLINA
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/18 ... 8296-01007

Another daughter born in 1880
#173 - dated 21 June 1880
Father: Salvatore Sciangula, 30, shoemaker
Mother: Stefana Mangione, his wife
Child born on 19 June at 11 AM - and given the name FRANCESCA
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/18 ... 8296-01426



T.

[Tessa78]

And a son...
Birth of son Giuseppe Sciangula in 1884
#78 - dated 19 February 1884
Father: Salvatore Sciangula, 32, shoemaker
Mother: Stefana Mangione, his wife
Child born on 19 February at 1 AM at the house in San Giuseppe .
The child was given the name GIUSEPPE
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/18 ... 8296-01825

I know these are ancestry links. I will come back and post the links in Family search

T.

[Tessa78]

Here are the links to the above births on Family Search (Same images as on the Ancestry links)

Maria Filomena Carolina Sciangula in 1877
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Francesca Sciangula in 1880
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Giuseppe Sciangula in 1884
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Another Son, Francesco, born in 1886
#416 - dated 4 November 1886
F: Salvatore Sciangula, 34, shoemaker
M: Stefana Mangione, his wife
Child born on 2 November 1886 at 5 PM, and given the name FRANCESCO
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Another son, Stefano, born in 1889 (it is possible that this Stefano died, and another was given the name)
#186 - dated 4 May 1889 - born on 1 May 1889
Parents: Salvatore Sciangula, 37, and his wife, Stefana Mangione
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Another daughter, Dorotea Maria Filomena, born in 1890
#337 - dated 28 September 1890 - birth on 27 September 1890
Parents: Salvatore Sciangula, 38, and his wife, Stefana Mangione
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Another daughter, Assunta, born in 1893
#277 - dated 5 August 1893 - birth on 1 August 1893
Parents: Salvatore Sciangula and Stefana Mangione, his wife, seamstress
The midwife, Marianna Rizza, 22, made the presentation as the father was ill.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

And, of course, son Stefano, born in 1897
#179
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Another son, Vincenzo, born in 1900
#219 - dated 9 June 1900 - birth on 7 June 1900
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

T.

[marcelmangione]

Here are the links to the above births on Family Search (Same images as on the Ancestry links)

Maria Filomena Carolina Sciangula in 1877
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Francesca Sciangula in 1880
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Giuseppe Sciangula in 1884
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Another Son, Francesco, born in 1886
#416 - dated 4 November 1886
F: Salvatore Sciangula, 34, shoemaker
M: Stefana Mangione, his wife
Child born on 2 November 1886 at 5 PM, and given the name FRANCESCO
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Another son, Stefano, born in 1889 (it is possible that this Stefano died, and another was given the name)
#186 - dated 4 May 1889 - born on 1 May 1889
Parents: Salvatore Sciangula, 37, and his wife, Stefana Mangione
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Another daughter, Dorotea Maria Filomena, born in 1890
#337 - dated 28 September 1890 - birth on 27 September 1890
Parents: Salvatore Sciangula, 38, and his wife, Stefana Mangione
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Another daughter, Assunta, born in 1893
#277 - dated 5 August 1893 - birth on 1 August 1893
Parents: Salvatore Sciangula and Stefana Mangione, his wife, seamstress
The midwife, Marianna Rizza, 22, made the presentation as the father was ill.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

And, of course, son Stefano, born in 1897
#179
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

Another son, Vincenzo, born in 1900
#219 - dated 9 June 1900 - birth on 7 June 1900
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1946817

T.

Tessa! I'm trying to send a private message to you, did you received???

[Tessa78]

No, Marcel, I did not receive your message.

BTW- did you see above the children's births that I posted the death act of Salvatore in 1935 in Raffadali?

T.

[marcelmangione]

No, Marcel, I did not receive your message.

BTW- did you see above the children's births that I posted the death act of Salvatore in 1935 in Raffadali?

T.

Yes! I saw, A M A Z I N G!!!

My GGGF was born the same day I did!!! \0/

I sent you a private message now I think I done it right. Please check there.

[marcelmangione]

No, Marcel, I did not receive your message.

BTW- did you see above the children's births that I posted the death act of Salvatore in 1935 in Raffadali?

T.

Yes! I saw, A M A Z I N G!!!

My GGGF was born the same day I did!!! \0/

I sent you a private message now I think I done it right. Please check there.

[Tessa78]

I responded to your PM...

T.

[carubia]

FWIW, here is your GGF Stefano Sciangula in my tree.

Vincenz Zirafa and Caterina Mattana may have died in San Biagio Platani, as that's where their younger daughter Giuseppa was born and died.

Giuseppe Moscato may have been from Canicatti. The leaf that you can see attached to him is a hint to the tree of "MarioTheGreat." I know Mario - he gets a lot of church records from Raimondo Lentini and is usually pretty accurate. He has the place of death of Giuseppe as Canicatti and also has an estimate for his year of birth, which implies that Mario has seen a copy of the death record. I know of Giuseppe's date of death only from the 2nd page of the marriage record of Carolina Moscato. Giuseppe's other son Francesco died in Canicatti.