Help with translation

[liviomoreno]

yes 1893

[Tessa78]

So the image is a copy of my grandfather's birth certificate - Vincenzo Stropoli b. 1893 not his father, Vincenzo b. ca 1855?

I have been searching for the birth act of the elder Vincenzo (b. about 1855) - I have checked the births from 1851 through 1860 - but did not find him.
I am suspecting that he was not born in Godrano.

T.

[Paladin1952]

I would agree with you. I found the town Potenza on the map. Why would the passport have that place listed? It's a long, long way from Palermo. I have started reading and researching Italian customs, rituals, etc, trying to understand the world they lived in. I hate to admit I know more about Ancient Rome than I do about the time period they lived in. A question, we always questioned why Francesca Papa was listed with her maiden name on the ship's manifest - so they were never married before she and the children immigrated? Not that it matters, again, need to learn more about customs at the time.

Thank you so much for all your help. This has been a break through even though we know less than we thought, but at least I have a starting point.

[Paladin1952]

Thank you also. If anyone has any suggestions where to start educating myself on the norms of daily life during this period of Italy, I would definitely appreciate the help.

[Tessa78]

I would agree with you. I found the town Potenza on the map. Why would the passport have that place listed? It's a long, long way from Palermo. I have started reading and researching Italian customs, rituals, etc, trying to understand the world they lived in. I hate to admit I know more about Ancient Rome than I do about the time period they lived in. A question, we always questioned why Francesca Papa was listed with her maiden name on the ship's manifest - so they were never married before she and the children immigrated? Not that it matters, again, need to learn more about customs at the time.

Thank you so much for all your help. This has been a break through even though we know less than we thought, but at least I have a starting point.

Even if they were married before they immigrated, Francesca would travel under her maiden name. Italian women kept their maiden name. If you were to look for a death act for a woman, you would need to look for her maiden name.

Can you post the image of page 1 of the passport again, so we can enlarge it?

EDIT TO ADD

I was able to enlarge the image and see that his place of birth looks like Marineo [Palermo]... stated at the bottom of the left column. His age is 38, making birth about 1856

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And to clarify... in an earlier post (after looking at your second posting) I stated that the passport was issued in Palermo, not Potenza.

BIRTH ACT of Vincenzo Stropoli (spelling on birth act is Staropoli, which is the spelling of the surname in Marineo), on 13 December 1856, in Marineo, Palermo.
Father: Antonino Staropoli, 30, laborer
Mother: Rosalia Cannella, his wife.

http://dl.antenati.san.beniculturali.it ... ewsIndex=0

T.