Who are the bride's parents

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Who are the bride's parents

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I think the father is a priest. Cannot make out the mother's name.

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padre ignoto
madre ignoto

unknown father; unknown mother
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Thank You.
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I am convinced now that the Calogero Puma born about 1863 and the Calogero Puma, born 1880 of the same parents are two different people due to the "age" of the father on their children's birth certificates with different wives corresponding consistently with a Calogero born about 1863 and a Calogero born in 1880. If they were the same person, this could not happen. Why they have the same first name, given that they have the same exact parent names, is a mystery because Racalmuto does not show a birth of a Calogero Puma in 1863, 1864, or 1865 and is missing birth records for 1861 and 1862. Maybe the older Calegero is using a middle name instead of a first name, but without his birth certificate, I cannot be sure.

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I know this is going to sound ridiculous, but my husband's paternal grandfather was a Vincenzo. No middle name in his civil birth record in 1891, and no additional names given to him in his baptism record from the Sicilian town's parish. His parents had a number of children and, in 1905, had another son (their 4th son) whom they also named Vincenzo-again with no middle name. Two totally different sons. The older son came to the United States in 1914, but did eventually return to Sicily around 1923, after marrying a woman from his native town in the U.S. and having two American born children. He never returned to the U.S. and ultimately died in his native Sicilian town in 1943. The Vincenzo born in 1905 died in the Sicilian town in 1921, at the age of 16. So why did the parents name this other son Vincenzo? Obviously, it wasn't because the first Vincenzo had come to the U.S., and his parents might have then considered that he was "dead" to them, as he didn't come here until 1914.

So Ron, I really don't know what to tell you. Sometimes I just think these Italian records raise more questions than they answer, but that's what keeps us researching, I guess.

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The real sad part about Italian naming traditions is that the cousins all have the same names. My father was one of four cousins named Giovanni.
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and yet my mother-in-law's parents' native town in Caserta province often seemed to follow no naming patterns at all!
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