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translation of relative's military record details

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Hi everyone
I just wanted to get a translation of a couple of items on my relative's
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1. I cannot make out what his nose was described as in the physical features section.
2. Please translate the note written on 9 June 1921.

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I wonder if it could be "sorto" referring to turned-up?
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Hi Nick

I think that in both cases the word is meant be "storto" so "crooked nose" but in the top record, it does look more like "socto" which is new to me, and I understand it can mean "narrow" so it could be "narrow nose"?

I'm still working on the the note but it seems to be saying that "His request for ........? was rejected because in the family, his brother Pietro, of Class 1886 was assigned to the Third Category.

(I'm sorry to hear that things are so tough in Sydney at the moment with Covid. It's just doesn't want to go away... I hope your family are all well and safe.)

Thoughts and prayers, Angela.
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AngelaGrace56 wrote: 18 Jul 2021, 03:56 Hi Nick

I think that in both cases the word is meant be "storto" so "crooked nose" but in the top record, it does look more like "socto" which is new to me, and I understand it can mean "narrow" so it could be "narrow nose"?

I'm still working on the the note but it seems to be saying that "His request for ........? was rejected because in the family, his brother Pietro, of Class 1886 was assigned to the Third Category.

(I'm sorry to hear that things are so tough in Sydney at the moment with Covid. It's just doesn't want to go away... I hope your family are all well and safe.)

Thoughts and prayers, Angela.



If I'm deciphering all the words correctly, I think that he had applied for a reduction in the period of military service, but this was declined because his brother Pietro, (Class 1886), had been assigned to the Third Category.

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Thanks for the help, especially Angela!!!
Yes, crooked makes sense when I look at a photo of him.
Thanks also for the translation of the comment.

Much appreciated, and likewise, I hope that you are all safe and well.

Kind regards
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nrepole wrote: 18 Jul 2021, 09:18 Thanks for the help, especially Angela!!!
Yes, crooked makes sense when I look at a photo of him.
Thanks also for the translation of the comment.

Much appreciated, and likewise, I hope that you are all safe and well.

Kind regards
Nick


You are very welcome, Nick. Hopefully I've interpreted the comment correctly, but I'm never sure with military records.

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Yes, Angela, i confirm your translation and for the nose I read 'torto' that could be interpreted as 'bended' or 'storto' as you say.


Respinta la domanda di riduzione di ferma perché in famiglia vi è il fratello Pietro della classe 1886 che fu assegnato alla Terza Categoria.
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cedrone wrote: 18 Jul 2021, 13:31 Yes, Angela, i confirm your translation and for the nose I read 'torto' that could be interpreted as 'bended' or 'storto' as you say.


Respinta la domanda di riduzione di ferma perché in famiglia vi è il fratello Pietro della classe 1886 che fu assegnato alla Terza Categoria.
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Thank you so much for confirming my translation, cedrone. I appreciate it. Once I understood what the word "ferma" meant as a military term, I was able to decipher the word "riduzione". The writing in these military documents are often a challenge.

Yes, it could be "torto". To me I always understood the word "torto" to mean "off beat" or "not correct" In the first extract it looks more like "torto" definitely.

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AngelaGrace56 wrote: 18 Jul 2021, 22:09 ...
Yes, it could be "torto". To me I always understood the word "torto" to mean "off beat" or "not correct" In the first extract it looks more like "torto" definitely.

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mmogno wrote: 19 Jul 2021, 15:08
AngelaGrace56 wrote: 18 Jul 2021, 22:09 ...
Yes, it could be "torto". To me I always understood the word "torto" to mean "off beat" or "not correct" In the first extract it looks more like "torto" definitely.

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Okay. Thank you, G. (Which is also an adjective.)

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Thanks everyone!!

Much appreciated
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