Finding commune / birth certificate

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I'm trying to locate the birth certificate of a great great grandfather. I was able to find his tombstone here in the US (picture below), which indicates that he is a native of Gaggiomontana. I haven't been able to find any documents online around this commune, I'm was wondering if perhaps this was known as something else or perhaps the records were held somewhere else.

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Probably the Comune of Gaggio Montano, Province of Bologna, Emilia‑Romagna Region.

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Here is his birth act in Gaggio Montano, on 16 July 1883 (#97)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1947797

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#97 - Act of Birth for Battista Guidotti
Dated 21 July 1883 in the town hall of Gaggio Montano
Before the official appeared Andrea Guidotti, age 30, landowner residing in Gaggio, to declare that at 11 AM on the 16th of the current month in the house in Gaggio, to Marianna Cheli, housewife, his wife residing with him, was born a male child who was not presented to the official, and to whom was given the name BATTISTA
To the above and this act were present as witnesses Carlo Simoni, 24, clerk; and Leonardo Faccanti, 49, mason, both residing in this town.
The declarant dispensed with the presentation of the child because it was ill.
NOTE in margin:
He was the legitimate son of Domenico Andrea Guidotti and of Marianna Cheli by their subsequent marriage celebrated on 21 March 1893 in Gaggio Montano.



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Tessa78 wrote: 07 Jan 2022, 19:21 Probably the Comune of Gaggio Montano, Province of Bologna, Emilia‑Romagna Region.

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I agree. There are records for the town on Family Search.

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Tessa78 wrote: 07 Jan 2022, 19:21 Probably the Comune of Gaggio Montano, Province of Bologna, Emilia‑Romagna Region.

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Here is his birth act in Gaggio Montano, on 16 July 1883 (#97)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1947797


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Oh you have found it already! You are so quick T!!!

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Wow! Tessa / Angela thank you so much as always. I was just hoping to find the town that had the record. I did not know that family search had some of these archives, as I could not find the commune name of Gaggio on the "antenati" searches.

Through family search do they have access to the ten year indexes, I wanted to continue to see if I could find the death of the parents to find the names of the prior generation?

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Now that we have the parents names from Battista's birth act above we can search! :-)

EDIT TO ADD:
Using the marriage of Battista's parents celebrated on 21 March 1893 in Gaggio Montano... here is the generation back.
Domenico Andrea is age 42 and the son of deceased Battista Guidotti, and of deceased Anna Guerini(?)
Marianna is age 40 and the daughter of deceased Domenico Cheli, and of deceased Pasqua Taglioli.
With this marriage the couple wishes to acknowledge the birth of their 4 children.
1 - Battista born July 1883
2 - Domenico Giovanni born December 1884
3 - Anna Caterina born July 1889
4 - Luigi Simone born July 1892

Note: Marianna was born in Lizzano in Belvedere (Metropolitan City of Bologna)

Record #4 -
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1947797

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Hello,

Could someone help with the translations of the parents death certificates from the prior post:

Commune: Lizzano in Belvedere

Domenico Cheli - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1947797

Pasqua Taglioli - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1947797

Commune: Gaggio Montano
Anna Guccini - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1947797

Battista Guidotti - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1947797

Thank you!
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deigo1 wrote: 07 Feb 2022, 21:01 Hello,

Could someone help with the translations of the parents death certificates from the prior post:

Commune: Lizzano in Belvedere

Domenico Cheli - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1947797

Pasqua Taglioli - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1947797

Thank you!
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Death No 130: Domenico Cheli
Registered on 15 November 1891, Lizzano in Belvedere
Reporting the death were Pietro Orlandini, 55 yo, Muratore (mason/bricklayer), and Domenico Cheli, 58 yo, agricoltore (farmer), both living in Lizzano. They reported that at 7 am, today (15 Nov 1891), Domenico Cheli died in the house in Lizzano, No 177. He was 73 yo, agricoltore, born and residing in Lizzano, the son of the deceased Sebastiano (Cheili) and the deceased Catterina Carpani, who had both lived in Lizzano when living. He was the widower of Pasqua Taglioli.


Death No 23: Pasqua Taglioli
Registered 13 March 1879, Lizzano in Belvedere
Reporting the death were Domenico Cheli, 60 yo, bracciante (day labourer), and Dr Enrico? Tozzi Fontana, 43 yo, Medico (doctor), both living in Lizzano. They reported that at 12.00 yesterday, in the house in Lizzano, No 153, Pasqua Taglioli, died. She was 50 yo, a massaia (domestic), born and residing in Lizzano, daughter of the deceased Luigi and of the deceased Marianna Franzaroli, who had both lived in Lizzano when living, the wife of Domenico Cheli.

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deigo1 wrote: 07 Feb 2022, 21:01 Hello,

Could someone help with the translations of the parents death certificates from the prior post:

Commune: Gaggio Montano

Anna Guccini - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1947797



Thank you!
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Registered 23 June 1890, Gaggio Montano
Death No 28: Anna Guccini
Reporting the death were Andrea Guidotti, 39 yo, possidente (land owner), and Carlo Simoni, 31 yo, impiegato (clerk), both living in Gaggio. They reported that at 2.30 pm, on 21 June 1890, in the house in Gaggio, No 246, Anna Guccini, 76 yo, massaia (domestic) died. She was born and residing in Gaggio, the daughter of the deceased Andrea Guccini, who had been a colono (tenant farmer), and of the deceased Maria Picchioni, a domestic, who had both lived in Gaggio when living. Anna Guccini was the widow of Battista Guidotti.

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deigo1 wrote: 07 Feb 2022, 21:01 Hello,

Could someone help with the translations of the parents death certificates from the prior post:

Battista Guidotti - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1947797

Thank you!
D.


Death No 83: Battista Guidotti
Registered Gaggio Montano, 8 October 1873
Appearing were Nicola Lepri, of unknown parents, 34 yo, tenant farmer and Vincenzo Cioni, son of deceased Mariano Cioni, 42 yo, bracciante (day labourer), residing here in Gaggio, who reported that at 11 pm yesterday, 7 October 1873, in the house in Fornace, here in Gaggio, Battista Guidotti died.

He was the son of deceased Domenico and of deceased Catterina, an Agricoltore Proprietario, 69? yo, born in Gabba, municipality of Lizzano (in) Belvedere, and living in Gaggio Montano. He was the husband of Anna Guccini.

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Thank you Angela!

These were time intensive ones to find. They structured these archives together in 5 year blocks, with what looked like another small area, so there were ten 1 year indexes in each set to find. The 1 year ones are much more user friendly :) but happy they are there to actually search. On two finding their two children.

Thanks!
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Hello could someone help with these translations.

Commune of Gaggio Montano

Marianna Cheli -
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1947797

Domenico Guidotti -
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1947797

I was also interested based on the translation does it indicate that Marianna's husband or Domenico's father is still alive? (This would be Domenico Andrea, which is some times referred to as just Andrea). If I'm reading enough correctly mother and son died only about 2 months apart.

Thanks!
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deigo1 wrote: 11 Feb 2022, 00:03 Hello could someone help with these translations.

Commune of Gaggio Montano

Marianna Cheli -
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1947797

Thanks!
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Death No 18: Marianna Cheli
Gaggio Montano, 18 April 1932
Marianna Cheli, a “donna di casa” (housewife) died 1.15 am yesterday (17 April) in the house in Gaggio – Via Giulio Giordani, No 11, at the age of 79. She was residing in Gaggio Montano, but born in Lizzano in Belvedere, the daughter of the deceased Domenico Cheli and of the deceased Pasqua Taglioli, and the wife of Domenico Andrea Guidotti.


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deigo1 wrote: 11 Feb 2022, 00:03 Hello could someone help with these translations.

Commune of Gaggio Montano



Domenico Guidotti -
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cc=1947797

I was also interested based on the translation does it indicate that Marianna's husband or Domenico's father is still alive? (This would be Domenico Andrea, which is some times referred to as just Andrea). If I'm reading enough correctly mother and son died only about 2 months apart.

Thanks!
D.

Death No 28: Domenico Guidotti
Registered Gaggio Montano: 6 June 1932
Domenico Guidotti, an ocologiaio (ocologist?) died 8.35, yesterday in the house in Via Giulio Giordani, No 11, at the age of 47. He was born and living in Gaggio Montano, the son of Andrea, a farmer, and of the deceased Marianna Cheli, who had both lived in Gaggio Montano when living. He was the husband of Zita Dina Tomasi.


Great, to see these later records on line.

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Do you have Domenico Guidotti and Zita Dina Tomasi's marriage record?

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