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Hoping for some help. Was doing some digging in a family tree in my maternal grandmothers side and realized I had my 2nd great grandfathers (Francisco Lolli) spouses mixed up a bit. I had his second wife (Maria Carmelita) as my second great grandmother. But it was actually his first wife, who is Maria Dorazio. I can’t seem to find much on her. All I know is that she was born circa 1874 in Forcella, Italy and died in 1896 in Forcella. Her and Francisco had two boys: Ferdinando and Eugenio. On some of Eugenio Social Security paperwork she was listed as “Maria Diorozio” Not sure on when her and Francisco got married but would assume it happened in Forcella…
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There are several towns/villages named Forcella.
Do you know what province?

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Do any of these look familiar?

Forcella, Acquasanta Terme, Ascoli Piceno (Marche) --
Forcella, Frosinone, Frosinone (Lazio) --
Forcella, Montasola, Rieti (Lazio) --
Forcella, Pescosolido, Frosinone (Lazio) --
Forcella, Roccafluvione, Ascoli Piceno (Marche) --
Forcella, Serravalle di Chienti, Macerata (Marche) --
Forcella, Teramo, Teramo (Abruzzo)

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Looking at this family tree it’s the one in the province of Teramo.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/pe ... s/GFQS-JDW
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Correct it is Teramo
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OK.

Records are limited for Forcella.

And it appears that Francesco Lolli was born in Penna Sant'Andrea.
Here is his birth act if you do not have it already.
#21
Birth on 17 June 1858 to Dionisio Lolli, 38, son of living Pasquale; and to Angelica d'Innocenzo, 33, his wife.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 98/04VPW2Q


Could it be that Maria D'Orazio was born in 1864 and not 1874?
If Ferdinando was born in 1889, that would make his mother age 15 if she was born in 1874. Not unheard of but not common.

IF Maria D'Orazio was born in 1864 - this may be her birth act in Forcella.
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Dated 8 March 1864 - born on 7 March.
Father: Pasquale D'Orazio, 33, son of Domenicantonio
Mother: Colomba Lolli, 32, his wife.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... RK?lang=en

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The above birth act in 1864 is correct for Maria D'Orazio.

Here is the marriage on 9 June 1888 in the comune of Teramo. (#80)
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 70/5vA8KlB

Here is the Allegati (attachments) for the marriage in 1888 in Teramo.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... g=en&i=379

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My goodness wow incredible thank you so much!!!!!! Who is Dionsio mother?
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This appears to be the marriage of Dionisio's parents in 1820 in Basciano (Teramo)
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Dated 8 June 1820
Groom: Pasqualantonio Lolli, 24, born and residing Caprafico (Teramo), son of deceased Dionizio Lolli, and of Angela "Dea?" di Giovanni(?) OR di Giovannantonio(?)
Bride: Domenica Giuseppa Antonia Mariani, 22, born and residing Basciano (Teramo), daughter of Matteo Mariani, and of Maria Luigia.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 10/LoNReqR

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The birth act of Dionisio in 1822 on 20 February .
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Dated 21 February 1822 in Teramo
Father: Pasquale Lolli, 26, farmer, residing in Caprafico.
Mother: Antonia Mariani, 23, his wife
Child given the name Dionisio.
Baptized in the Parish church in Caprafico.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 66/0J3OWlP

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Tessa78 wrote: 20 Aug 2025, 17:10 This appears to be the marriage of Dionisio's parents in 1820 in Basciano (Teramo)
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Dated 8 June 1820
Groom: Pasqualantonio Lolli, 24, born and residing Caprafica (Teramo), son of deceased Dionigio Lolli, and of Angela "Dea?" di Giovanni(?) OR di Giovannantonio(?)
Angela Dea di Giannatale (OR Giovanni Natale) De Pietro (see Pasqualantonio birth record)
Bride: Domenica Giuseppa Antonia Mariani, 22, born and residing Basciano (Teramo), daughter of Matteo Mariani, and of Maria Luigia.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 10/LoNReqR

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Tessa78 wrote: 19 Aug 2025, 18:58 OK.

Records are limited for Forcella.

And it appears that Francesco Lolli was born in Penna Sant'Andrea.
Here is his birth act if you do not have it already.
#21
Birth on 17 June 1858 to Dionisio Lolli, 38, son of living Pasquale; and to Angelica d'Innocenzo, 33, his wife.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... 98/04VPW2Q


Could it be that Maria D'Orazio was born in 1864 and not 1874?
If Ferdinando was born in 1889, that would make his mother age 15 if she was born in 1874. Not unheard of but not common.

IF Maria D'Orazio was born in 1864 - this may be her birth act in Forcella.
#7
Dated 8 March 1864 - born on 7 March.
Father: Pasquale D'Orazio, 33, son of Domenicantonio
Mother: Colomba Lolli, 32, his wife.
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12 ... RK?lang=en

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Who is Pasquale's mother/Domenicantonio's wife?
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