D'Onofrio or Denefrio from Dragoni?

[vicwargo]

Ohhhh...you are good! I didnt even notice the markings with the names. But in order to get the naturalization papers I have to have a birth certificate or death certificate? I thought I had read that and of course I have nothing unfortunately.

[vj]

Not necessarily required (note the * on the
request form).
But,
The more info you provide, the better chances of
success.
You may want to go for your Dragoni records first?
Valarie

for Biff: saw your note, will look
(with your great success rate with records
- this will be a challenge )
Valarie

[dragoni]

also try the family history center records for foreign records. i have just finished looking through dragoni civil records (microfilm) from 1866 to 1912 for my great grandparents and their relatives who hailed from there as well. you can find a treasure trove of information not only about them -such as birth, death and marriage records - but others in their family as well.

even though the records are in italian they are easily understood. folks on this site can point you in the direction of what to expect to see on them. until about 1874 the records are on standardized forms which makes it a bit easier than the old handwritten ones prior to that date.

i am going tomorrow to look through dragoni records prior to 1866 and will let you know whether i see any d'onofrios or not.

tom

[vicwargo]

Dragoni,
I would really appreciate that. Right now I am living in Spain so I am limited to resources that I find online.

Last night I was able to find my grandfathers and 2 of his brothers military enlistment forms but they didnt give me any new info.

I know that both Fred and Jennie passed away while living in Schenectady, NY but I havent been able to find any obits or death certificates.

[dragoni]

i went through the dragoni (caserta) records for the period 1808 through 1866 and did not see any d'onofrios listed. it could be they did not come to dragoni (caserta) until after that date. i am going back next week and will see if i can find another name close to that. these records are a bit more difficult to read than the later ones - lots of damage and years of horrible handwriting. ciao.

tom

[vicwargo]

Thanks so much Dragoni. I am almost positive now that they did come from Dragoni or Alvignano. The different spellings I have found are D'Onofrio, D'Anfrio, Denntvis and Denotti. I have also found relatives with the name of Corniello who evidently came from Alvignano.

[Biff83]

More information on the D'Onofrio and Corniello connection and the towns of Dragoni and Alvignano from another thread.

http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... =6287.html

Caserta Province map showing Dragoni and Alvignano.

http://www.italycyberguide.com/Geograph ... sertap.htm

[dragoni]

i will try to search for those variations of the name. i am going back next friday and will let you know. once you get the right town it is truly amazing what you can find on those records. just knowing the town and my great-grandparent names enabled me to trace them to 1790 +/- w/o any problems at all.

tom

[Westernkate]

Initial post in wrong place..

[vicwargo]

Thanks everyone for all the help.

I just tried doing some searching for marriage records but had no luck. I know they had to marry between 1905-1907 but I am guessing it would be in Dragoni or Alvignano. Anyone have any good search sites for marriage records other than familysearch.org? I have searched their records online with no luck.

[vicwargo]

I was wondering if anyone can help me with the procedures for requesting the birth extract from Dragoni. I am needing help with knowing where to send the letters, the forms, and well...any other info you can pass along to me. I dont know what all I should send or how I need to go about the process. I am living in Spain right now and would like to plan a trip to Dragoni but I want to make sure I have all the info correct. You all have been wonderful in assisting me and hopefully I can turn this adventure into a success

[Biff83]

I don't have a lot of experience here so I'd appreciate if someone could check and make sure I've got this correct since vicwargo is an American currently living in SPAIN. Joyce, Nuccia, suanj et al. could you check my post and lend your expertise? Thanks.

Address to request records

Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Comune di Dragoni
81010 DRAGONI CE
ITALY

81010 is the CAP code, Dragoni the town, CE the province Caserta


Interactive form letter to request birth extract information.

http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

Besides the letter, you'll need to include a photo copy of some type of identification like a driver's license, a self-addressed return envelope--the European equivalent of 6 x 9, and an international reply coupon if such a thing exists in Spain. Enclose all in a large envelope. Not sure if it would be necessary to send registered post.

[vicwargo]

What is an international reply coupon? I do have access to an american post office here. We are stationed on a Naval Base, Do you mean a pre-paid return envelope?

[Biff83]

From the USPS Postal Manual

372 International Reply Coupons
372.1 Description
a. The sender of a letter may prepay a reply by purchasing reply coupons that are sold and exchangeable for postage stamps by postal administrations in member countries of the Universal Postal Union.

372.3 **SPAM** Price and Rate of Exchange
a. The **SPAM** price of a reply coupon in the United States is $1.85. One coupon is exchangeable in any other member country for a stamp or stamps representing the minimum postage on an unregistered air letter.

The town would excange the reply coupon for Italian stamps which they would affix to your pre-addressed envelope.

I'd check at the base PO to see if they have these. I'm not familiar with the European union. Are both Spain and Italy participants and do they both use the Euro as their currency? If so, you could include a couple of Euros to cover the cost of mailing back the document to you, but am not sure how wise it would be to send money in the mail.

[vicwargo]

I also have another question. Sorry but I seem full of them I have been trying to make sense of the markings on Ferdinando's manifest from 1907. They are above his name and read 2-62948 4/6/39 (505). Now from what I have researched they mean that form 505 was used. The 2 is for the district (Southern NY) and 62948 would be the application number. What is confusing me is the date of 4/6/39. According to the census for 1910, 20 and 30 he was naturalized in 1907. Does this make sense to anyone?