From Italy to Venezuela
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From Italy to Venezuela
Anybody knows how/where I can find information about Italian immigrants that traveled to Venezuela? Is there in Italy anything like the Ellis database in which I could locate the Ship Manifests of passenger records?
I will appreciate your help with any info you may have.
Emiro
I will appreciate your help with any info you may have.
Emiro
Re: From Italy to Venezuela
Who and what are you looking for? Where did he come from and when did he leave Ital;y for Venezuela. Did he go straight to Veneuel;a, Was he single or married? Did he marry there? Peter
Re: From Italy to Venezuela
Hi, I know only someone surname of italians emigrated in Venezuela:emiroirausquin wrote:Anybody knows how/where I can find information about Italian immigrants that traveled to Venezuela? Is there in Italy anything like the Ellis database in which I could locate the Ship Manifests of passenger records?
I will appreciate your help with any info you may have.
Emiro
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Re: From Italy to Venezuela
Peter, Suanj
Thank you so much for you help!
I am looking for my great-grandfather Antonio Sangiovanni. As far as I know he immigrated directly to Venezuela, sometime in the 1880s- 1890s. He was single and I don’t know his date of birth. He married my great-grandmother in Venezuela (she was from Spain) I am searching their marriage certificate to find out his date of birth and the commune he was from.
I am looking for the manifest information because it is well known in my family that they traveled several times to Italy during the period 1890 – 1910 -at leats 3 times. Unfortunately, one of the problems I have encountered in my research is that in Venezuela we don’t have any official government agency or organization that kept the info of those immigrants arriving or leaving the country at the end of the1800 and beginning of the 1900s. So far I found data stating that 285.014 Italians came to Venezuela within 1876 -1976 http://www.comune.torino.it/cultura/int ... /12f3.html
Any ideas?
Gracias!
Thank you so much for you help!
I am looking for my great-grandfather Antonio Sangiovanni. As far as I know he immigrated directly to Venezuela, sometime in the 1880s- 1890s. He was single and I don’t know his date of birth. He married my great-grandmother in Venezuela (she was from Spain) I am searching their marriage certificate to find out his date of birth and the commune he was from.
I am looking for the manifest information because it is well known in my family that they traveled several times to Italy during the period 1890 – 1910 -at leats 3 times. Unfortunately, one of the problems I have encountered in my research is that in Venezuela we don’t have any official government agency or organization that kept the info of those immigrants arriving or leaving the country at the end of the1800 and beginning of the 1900s. So far I found data stating that 285.014 Italians came to Venezuela within 1876 -1976 http://www.comune.torino.it/cultura/int ... /12f3.html
Any ideas?
Gracias!
Re: From Italy to Venezuela
Hi, Sangiovanni surname : are an Vincenzo Sangiovanni emigrated in Venezuela and coming from Cosenza province (Calabria region)and someone Sangiovanni persons emigrated in Repubblica Dominicana.. and after arrived in USA (ellisisland.org)...emiroirausquin wrote:Peter, Suanj
Thank you so much for you help!
I am looking for my great-grandfather Antonio Sangiovanni. As far as I know he immigrated directly to Venezuela, sometime in the 1880s- 1890s. He was single and I don’t know his date of birth. He married my great-grandmother in Venezuela (she was from Spain) I am searching their marriage certificate to find out his date of birth and the commune he was from.
I am looking for the manifest information because it is well known in my family that they traveled several times to Italy during the period 1890 – 1910 -at leats 3 times. Unfortunately, one of the problems I have encountered in my research is that in Venezuela we don’t have any official government agency or organization that kept the info of those immigrants arriving or leaving the country at the end of the1800 and beginning of the 1900s. So far I found data stating that 285.014 Italians came to Venezuela within 1876 -1976 http://www.comune.torino.it/cultura/int ... /12f3.html
Any ideas?
Gracias!
really this are common surname in Italy, very diffused..but the Sangiovanni emigrated in America,( north and south) especially coming from Italy south... I not found database italian emigrants in Venezuela ..
regards, suanj
Re: From Italy to Venezuela
Do you happen to know the province,state or locality they opriginally lived in?? Peter
Re: From Italy to Venezuela
I came across MAGALY SANGIOVANNI in the town of AGUA BLANCA, Venezuela. Her/his telephone number is 0255-7921040. There may be more San Giovanni in other places that is wehy I asked you for a location but in the interim you might want to call or have someone who speaks spanish call and ask them if they are related to your Antonio San Giovanni. Peter
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That is all the info I have so far - I am still locating their marriage certificate-. Thank you for the name and phone number. I speak spanish so I will call Magali to see what I find out and will keep you posted.
Gracias!
Gracias!
Re: From Italy to Venezuela
I have several informants who are checking for me. Peter
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I called Magaly but no luck. They thought I was waco or was trying to get them into something,,, weird. I am still searching for the Marriage certificate.
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Ok I am sending you a private message. Peter
Re: From Italy to Venezuela
An oddity has developed. there is one Vincenzo De Luca San Giovanni. De Luca was the father but Sangiovanni was the mother and this couple married in Venezuela in 1909..any thoughts on this? Peter
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Peter
I don't think the Vincenzo De Luca San Giovanni you are referring to is related to my great-grandfather. We have never heard or known that my great-grandfather had any family living in Venezuela.
My great grandfather, Antonio San Giovanni, came to Venezuela from Italy and married my great-grandmother Carmela (no last name known). I am assuming they got married before 1890 because that is the date in which my grandfather Ramon San Giovanni was born.
I am looking into the marriage certificates issued before 1890. But in the town they lived in the records are not easy to look though -they are very messy.
Antonio traveled with Carmela several times to Italy after Ramon was born. I recently discovered that Antonio had a life or death fight with his Father in law and was given money by the family and asked to leave Venezuela by himself leaving his family behind sometime betwen 1910-1920.
Emiro,
I don't think the Vincenzo De Luca San Giovanni you are referring to is related to my great-grandfather. We have never heard or known that my great-grandfather had any family living in Venezuela.
My great grandfather, Antonio San Giovanni, came to Venezuela from Italy and married my great-grandmother Carmela (no last name known). I am assuming they got married before 1890 because that is the date in which my grandfather Ramon San Giovanni was born.
I am looking into the marriage certificates issued before 1890. But in the town they lived in the records are not easy to look though -they are very messy.
Antonio traveled with Carmela several times to Italy after Ramon was born. I recently discovered that Antonio had a life or death fight with his Father in law and was given money by the family and asked to leave Venezuela by himself leaving his family behind sometime betwen 1910-1920.
Emiro,
Re: From Italy to Venezuela
IU finally made some contacts in Venezuela and just to make sure what are you looking for so that I can get them moving. Peter
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I am looking for the Ship Manifests of passenger records of people leaving Venezuela and the ones for people arriving to Italy in the period 1890 – 1910.
Pretty much I am looking for information about my great-grandfather’s travels.
From the Venezuelan side I know in Venezuela there were four main ports at the time. Puerto Cabello, La Guaira, Port of La Vela de Coro and Port of Cumarebo but unfortunately I have not been able to locate any official government agency or organization that kept the records.
From the Italian side I have no info to find those Ship Manifests of passenger records of people arriving to Italy.
Pretty much I am looking for information about my great-grandfather’s travels.
From the Venezuelan side I know in Venezuela there were four main ports at the time. Puerto Cabello, La Guaira, Port of La Vela de Coro and Port of Cumarebo but unfortunately I have not been able to locate any official government agency or organization that kept the records.
From the Italian side I have no info to find those Ship Manifests of passenger records of people arriving to Italy.